Three Chili Peppers of Steamy Sex with Kristie Wolf

In this engaging episode of "Conversations with Rich Bennett," brought to you by Four Seasons Landscape & Construction Services, Rich and his co-host Kayla Deickman dive into the thrilling and passionate world of Kristie Wolf, the author behind the romantic suspense novel "Knife to the Heart." Set against the backdrop of a charming Colorado ski town, the book marries the intensity of FBI cybercrime investigation with the warmth of newfound love, creating a narrative that's as suspenseful as it is heartwarming.

Kristie opens up about the inspiration behind her novel,
providing listeners with a glimpse into her creative process, from character
development to incorporating real-world cybersecurity issues into her
storyline. The discussion takes a spicy turn as they touch on the book's
"three chili peppers" steaminess rating, a testament to Kristie's
skill in crafting scenes that sizzle.

Rich and Kayla explore the dynamics of Kristie's writing
journey, touching on the challenges and triumphs of self-publishing, her future
projects, and her engaging marketing techniques. Kristie shares delightful
insights into her personal life, including her husband's humorous support of
her career, showcased by his playful t-shirt at her book signings.

The conversation also veers into the practical aspects of being
an author in the digital age, from the importance of podcast appearances to
expanding one's reader base. Kristie offers adv

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Transcript

Rich Bennett 0:00
A while ago I had this young lady on and Wendy cohosted and she was talking about her book and her and Wendy the whole time just kept talking about this damn male model that she had for the book. She's got a new book out now to the Heart. She wrote about me so. 

So when she's not here, it is time by Carla is. And thank God the book cover, at least the one I'm looking at, does not have a male model on it. 

Kayla Deickman 0:33
I didn't want to make my husband jealous by buying the other one. 

Rich Bennett 0:37
Oh, that Wendy's not marry you all. Okay, so this works. You know, we have Kristi Wolf back on and she's going to be talking about her book and her new book. And you're already working on another one, do you? Yes, I am. Well, we won't talk about the other one yet. Okay. So life to the heart. Well, first of all, welcome back. 

Kristie Wolf 0:56
Thank you. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited. 

Rich Bennett 0:58
Still didn't bring me any cowboy boots, but that's okay. 

Kristie Wolf 1:00
I haven't gone to Nashville yet. You got to wait till the end of the year. 

Rich Bennett 1:05
Actually, weren't you supposed to bring me So you were going somewhere? The last time you were on, you were supposed to be headed somewhere. I don't. 

Kristie Wolf 1:11
Know. 

Rich Bennett 1:11
Maybe Texas. Yeah. I think you said you were going to bring me something different. 

Kristie Wolf 1:15
I'm going to Albany in a couple of weeks. I'll bring something back. 

Because I didn't know what I was going to bring you back from Albany. Is not that exciting. I don't think they're. 

Rich Bennett 1:24
Very nice to the heart Is not. What was the first book? 

Kristie Wolf 1:28
The first book is too dangerous to love. And that's my military romantic suspense. 

Rich Bennett 1:31
All right. So no to the Heart is not a follow up. 

Kristie Wolf 1:33
No Knife to the Heart is the first book in the Blood Snow series. And so it's a brand new series. And this one's a small town. Romantic suspense. 

Rich Bennett 1:42
Yeah, well, I'm sorry. I forgot. Carla Dykeman is also called the Day. Also all about how you won't be going Gaga. 

Kayla Deickman 1:50
It's all right. I still go Gaga. 

Rich Bennett 1:52
Yeah, I know. Yeah, probably. She's got the pictures on her phone, so we already saw. 

Kayla Deickman 1:58
Hey, I was gonna say, can you send me that picture later? 

Kristie Wolf 2:00
I can. 

Rich Bennett 2:01
Start. I will tell your husband. 

Kayla Deickman 2:03
My husband will deal. He will deal. 

Rich Bennett 2:09
I you editor now. Oh, no, I'm not. I'm giving her a bookmark. Oh, and it's going to put you on it. 

Kayla Deickman 2:16
Yeah, I love bookmarks. Here you. 

Kristie Wolf 2:17
Have undo. 

Rich Bennett 2:18
So I have to. Oh, she said the male model on this. Oh, from today. 

Kristie Wolf 2:22
That's dangerous. 

Rich Bennett 2:23
Yeah, because he looks like me, but. Right. 

Kristie Wolf 2:25
Exactly. 

Rich Bennett 2:26
What was. 

Kristie Wolf 2:26
There? Here's the. Here's the knife to the heart bookmark with a male and a female model on it. 

Rich Bennett 2:33
All right, so I know he expanded less night, but how do you find the models? 

Kristie Wolf 2:37
There are photographers who do photography. 

Rich Bennett 2:46
No, there's a photographer in it. Those photographers. 

Kristie Wolf 2:50
I know. It's crazy. There aren't many of them out there. 

Rich Bennett 2:52
I guess you're going to tell me that you found authors that write as well. I did. I know. 

Kristie Wolf 2:56
I know. I'm okay. Like I know if you know. So they they'd take photos with the idea of putting them on book covers in mind and for other things, I guess. But they have websites that that we look through as authors. We look through their websites, and we look for people that represent the character that we've created. 

Rich Bennett 3:14
Hey, so has your husband asked you to be for him to be one of the covers? Yes, I tried. I nowadays, you know, all the. 

Kristie Wolf 3:22
Time, but I don't once, you know, I don't want other women ogling my husband, we usually go, Yeah, really? That's like. That's not the reason at all. No, my husband actually, my husband actually has a t shirt that says I'm the inspiration for her steamy scenes. 

Kayla Deickman 3:38
I love. Oh, I. 

Rich Bennett 3:39
Like. 

Kayla Deickman 3:39
That. I love it so much. 

Kristie Wolf 3:41
And he wears it when he comes to book events with me. 

Rich Bennett 3:44
I wonder if I can get one that says I'm the inspiration for my wife. Reading books of steaming 

still see. 

Kristie Wolf 3:52
Things that friends and. 

Rich Bennett 3:57
Got. All right. So I get back to life, to the heart that What's this again? I'm sorry. 

Kristie Wolf 4:02
So like I said, nice. The heart I have to. The heart is a small town. Romantic suspense. It takes place in a Colorado ski town. And my heroine is an FBI agent. She specializes in cybercrime. And my hero is a doctor and the CEO of the local hospital. And there has been a ransomware attack on the hospital. And so if you don't know what a ransomware attack is, that is when a criminal seizes your organization's network, all of your data, all of your processes, anything that is technologically involved, and they they hold it for ransom and they won't give you the encryption codes to access all of your data and everything unless you pay them money. Keep in mind, I'm not a technical person. That is my version of what happened. 

Rich Bennett 4:50
So how did you end up doing the research for this one? Because, I mean, that is you got to do thorough research on that with cybersecurity and even the ransomware. 

Kristie Wolf 4:59
Well, I didn't have to do that much research because I work for a company called Stat Insider. Right. And we hosted educational I.T. briefings and webinars. And a couple of years ago, I sat and listened to a pre brief call that we were having for a webinar. And the CIO, the chief information officer at a hospital in Washington State, I believe was on as a guest, and he was talking about a ransomware attack that they had just had on their hospital. 

Kayla Deickman 5:28
So would you say that that's like the inspiration. 

Kristie Wolf 5:30
For the Internet? Yes, because I was thinking about what I wanted to write next. I had just finished Too Dangerous to Love. I wrote a couple of contemporaries and they weren't as much fun as writing a romantic suspense book because I didn't get to fight, write, fight scenes or blow anything up. 

And so I'm listening to this guy talk and he's talking about all the terrible things that could have happened to these successfully averted. But he was talking about other things that did happen at other hospitals, like people died because as a director, result of not having their data on medication, you know, so if someone walks into the emergency room and, you know, you and they're unconscious, you can check their medical records many times to see if they have any allergies. When you walk into the emergency room and there's no data, they don't know that you have a penicillin allergy. You know, like really, really simple like and the way I'm describing it is might not be 100% accurate because I'm not a doctor or a technology person. But that's the gist of it. I they were telling me a story about somebody dying in an ambulance because they got to the hospital and they were in whatever condition they were in and the hospital couldn't take care of them because of the ransomware attack. They didn't. 

Rich Bennett 6:48
They're under certain. 

Kristie Wolf 6:49
Courtesy. Yeah. And so that person died in the ambulance on the way to another hospital. 

Rich Bennett 6:55
Interesting, because when you think of ransomware, you don't think about that stuff. No. Especially. Well, especially on a hospital. Yeah. But with a lot of types of businesses even wasn't there. I don't know if you remember this or not, but it was years ago, I think it was a government agency. Had a ransomware attack. 

Kristie Wolf 7:13
Yep. 

Rich Bennett 7:14
Which created nothing but cash. 

Kristie Wolf 7:16
Yup. And, you know, the criminals are after it, you know, to get the ransom. They're after it to get your, you know, the PII, your personally identifiable, identifiable information and, 

you know, confidential statistics and financials and proprietary information that a company might have all sorts of reasons. And so and, you know, many times people pay the ransom, they don't get the authorities involved, and then you pay the ransom and then you don't get your network back. And then they demand another ransom and you don't get your network back. And so it is recommended by the federal government not to pay the ransom. And so that is where that's where the clash comes between my two characters, because he, my CEO, has a very personal reason to pay the ransom to get this over with quickly. And my FBI agent has a very personal reason why she does not want to pay the ransom. 

Rich Bennett 8:11
And so I'm going to say the FBI agent is right on this one because you pay the ransom. Okay. Yeah, they're not there. So we have a right. 

Kristie Wolf 8:20
And she's the woman and the woman's always right. 

Kayla Deickman 8:21
So especially in romance, but. 

Kristie Wolf 8:23
Especially in romance books. 

Kayla Deickman 8:27
Your face right now. 

Rich Bennett 8:29
Go ahead. Take a 

to trouble. 

Kayla Deickman 8:34
Which looks like a cherry to. 

Rich Bennett 8:38
Look. 

Kayla Deickman 8:38
At is. 

Rich Bennett 8:39
I learned that the hard way about the right thing because for 

25 years I've been telling my wife she married Mr. Right first name always. And then after 20 or after 26 years, I said that to her again. And then she came up with a line. I didn't know how to answer it. She said, Well, if you're Mr. Right, doesn't that make me Mrs. always right? 

Kristie Wolf 9:06
Smart woman. 

Kayla Deickman 9:07
Absolutely. 

Rich Bennett 9:09
I don't use that line, you say, because how do you answer nicely? 

Kayla Deickman 9:16
So you were stuck between a rock and a hard place? 

Rich Bennett 9:18
I was very stuck. I didn't. I didn't have a comb back. 

Kayla Deickman 9:22
And so speaking of hard places, how is the steam in the bus? 

Rich Bennett 9:27
Oh. 

Kristie Wolf 9:28
The steam, yes. It's definitely steamy. 

Kayla Deickman 9:31
How many chili peppers. 

Kristie Wolf 9:32
I would be? I would give it three chili peppers. 

Kayla Deickman 9:35
Okay. 

Kristie Wolf 9:35
Yeah. You know, and it's subjective. It depends who's reading it. Some people might think it's steamier than others. 

Rich Bennett 9:42
But they're talking about chili peppers. 

Kristie Wolf 9:46
They think of it as a romance. Romance? Yes, yes. 

Rich Bennett 9:49
Yes. 

Kristie Wolf 9:49
So think of it as stars, you know. 

Kayla Deickman 9:52
Except in romance. 

Kristie Wolf 9:53
But for. 

Kayla Deickman 9:54
Chili. 

Kristie Wolf 9:54
Pepper. 

Rich Bennett 9:55
Yeah, I have no idea, because. 

Kayla Deickman 9:57
We're talking about spice. 

Rich Bennett 9:58
Yeah, I'm going to be okay with one. 

Kristie Wolf 10:00
With one being, like, a Hallmark movie. Like there's a very chaste kiss at the end, you know, they hold hands. 

Kayla Deickman 10:06
And five being scary for most viewers. 

Kristie Wolf 10:09
Like when you're turning the pages and you're thinking, What is wrong with him? I really need therapy. Why am I reading wrong? I do. I like this iris thing wrong with me. 

Kayla Deickman 10:17
I do have a couple of books like that. 

Kristie Wolf 10:19
So do I love them? Maybe I will write books like that someday. 

Rich Bennett 10:23
All right. 

Kristie Wolf 10:23
So this is the part. 

Rich Bennett 10:24
This is Three Chili Peppers. All this steamy. 

Kristie Wolf 10:27
It's great, right? So you read it. What do you think? Do you think that that's accurate? 

Kayla Deickman 10:30
Yeah, I would say that's right. 

Kristie Wolf 10:32
Around. Right around what? You dangerous to love was my first book. 

Kayla Deickman 10:36
Yeah. I mean, I think. I don't know. I'm going to have, like, my favorite was too dangerous. Wow. That's just because that's more of my right. 

Kristie Wolf 10:44
Right. 

Rich Bennett 10:46
Yeah. Okay, Well, all right, now, Nancy, you read it, so this is good. Chris, what's your favorite part of the book? 

Kristie Wolf 10:53
My favorite part of Knife to the Heart is the final sex scene. 

Kayla Deickman 11:00
I'm sorry. 

Rich Bennett 11:01
I just love it. Okay. What? I'm afraid to ask, but why? 

Kristie Wolf 11:08
I really work on the Chili Peppers. 

Rich Bennett 11:10
The fight was rage. Hell with the Ten Chili Peppers. It was that hot. 

Kristie Wolf 11:15
So I originally that scene was a last minute one that I put in because I wanted to make that part. And that's that's the part of the book where we're like, it's called Gathering the Troops, where there there's that there's, you know, a problem. Things are dark. It's like all is lost kind of. And so like, you rally, you know, and you make a plan how you are going to overcome something and so that's this is where they meet the terrorist right before they meet the terrorists. And so my hero and my heroine have a moment of I might lose you, I might lose you type of type of thing because terrorists are dangerous. My cyber terrorist does not stay behind his computer. He kills people. And so I wanted to I wanted to seen where to, like bring them together even more and like, solidify like everything that they'd gone through and all of the struggles that they'd faced together falling in love. And so I put that scene in there, but I didn't want the scene to, like, detract from all of the action that was going on because that when I sent it to my editor, she was like, Oh, no, oh no, no, no, no. She's like, You need to this scene needs to go all the way through to the end. You can not just give us like a two liner that like they both climaxes and it was over. Like you need to, you need to bring this. 

Rich Bennett 12:34
Well, the terror. 

Kristie Wolf 12:35
Section. 

Rich Bennett 12:36
What So show the sex scenes while the terrorists are there. 

Kristie Wolf 12:39
Know it's before they before they right before. 

Kayla Deickman 12:41
Right. 

Kristie Wolf 12:41
Okay. There's no terrorist. They're there. They're on their way. They're they're playing like they've got their plan in place they're about to head out with, and they're all they're FBI. Laurie said. And so I, I beefed up that scene and I really love the emotion in that. 

Kayla Deickman 12:55
So one of my favorite lines of that, giving anything away in this book and I don't know again, this is just the the the romance lover in me. I guess we're nowhere near done. Snow Angel. 

Kristie Wolf 13:10
Oh, yeah. She calls her. 

Kayla Deickman 13:11
Snow and. 

Kristie Wolf 13:11
I because they meet snowboarding. 

Kayla Deickman 13:13
And I love it I think it's so cute And is it I was just I was. 

Rich Bennett 13:17
Like it's like. 

Kayla Deickman 13:19
My favorite. 

Kristie Wolf 13:20
In the beginning of the movie when he meets her at the top of a double block diamond at the bottom, he calls her Snow Angel and she's all like, Don't call me that. You know, like, I'm tough. I'm an FBI agent. And he thinks that she rides like like the devil, but looks like an angel. And so that's why he calls her snow. 

Kayla Deickman 13:38
It's so cool. 

Rich Bennett 13:39
Get women get, get, get back to the other the scene you like, the bit where they decide, okay, they they want to bump uglies, whatever you want to call it. Yeah. As the terrorists or do they know the terrorists are coming? 

Kristie Wolf 13:53
They know where the terrorists are. They know who the terrorist is kidnapped. And so they are. They're about to go handle that situation. 

Rich Bennett 14:00
They could be watching it knowing, well, they know. 

Kayla Deickman 14:03
Like the terrorists. So they're could. 

Kristie Wolf 14:05
They're find a safe passage out the. 

Rich Bennett 14:07
Door, make sure. Okay. Because if the terrorist was coming, I wanted to know whose idea was it, The guy or their girl. Okay, let's have this movie. 

Kayla Deickman 14:15
Think about it. Like when you're watching an action movie and the main male character in the action movie is getting ready to go off to war. And this might be the last time he sees his lover. Yes, that's what you're. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 14:30
But with that, you're going to a different country. You don't have the stuff there. But I'm coming at you right here. 

Kayla Deickman 14:36
Okay, then instead of going to war at every it's every action movie set with Name a star, and that's who it is. And you see. 

Rich Bennett 14:48
I said, we're not okay. I hear what you're saying. What you're trying to tell me is the guy in this book is like Jason Statham. He don't care what happens if he's got time. 

Kristie Wolf 14:59
Yeah, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 15:00
He's. 

Kristie Wolf 15:01
Got he he's he's an alpha male. He's protective. He's a guy in love, even though he didn't want to be in love and didn't have time to be in love and had lots of other things, you know, pulling him away from relationships. He's fallen, of course, like every romance novel. And he can't do a damn thing about it. And yeah, the woman that he's falling in love with is driving, literally driving to a terrorist into danger. He's going along for the ride and, you know. 

Kayla Deickman 15:28
So she. 

Kristie Wolf 15:28
And so is she. And so they had some they had some things they had to work out, some things they had to get off their chests and they needed. 

Rich Bennett 15:41
Oh, God. Kristen, please tell me that this was a knife to the heart. And the first one too dangerous to love are not based on true events. You know. 

Kayla Deickman 15:56
Well, she did just say that she had the inspiration through was somewhat true of that. 

Kristie Wolf 16:00
I did. I did. But I feel. 

Rich Bennett 16:03
I'm. 

Kayla Deickman 16:03
Just saying. 

Rich Bennett 16:04
That's the sexy part. She did it for the 

a. 

Kristie Wolf 16:10
Few weeks ago, one of my sorority sisters read Too Dangerous to Love. And she sent me a message and she said something like, Wow, girl, I'm jealous. You must have one hell of a sex life. And I sent her a note back and I said, I have one hell of an imagination. 

Rich Bennett 16:27
Well. 

Kayla Deickman 16:27
And when you write romance, I'm sure you read a lot. 

Kristie Wolf 16:30
Of romance and. 

Kayla Deickman 16:31
You take things in that you love, and then you find the things that you're like. I really love that. I don't love. 

Kristie Wolf 16:38
It. No, I don't think anyone else is right. If it doesn't, you know, if. 

Rich Bennett 16:43
You're not moved by and. 

Kristie Wolf 16:44
Not moved by it, then if. 

Rich Bennett 16:45
It doesn't make you shiver. 

Kristie Wolf 16:48
Actually, if it doesn't give me that, you know. 

Rich Bennett 16:51
That feels good feeling. 

Kristie Wolf 16:52
Really good feeling. 

Rich Bennett 16:56
If you don't hear your husband yell, tell Christie, what is that noise you're making? Do you know what's that crackling? Oh, my God, I got to be okay. I always have to remember whenever you come on that I need to label some of these episodes as 

this one. 

Kayla Deickman 17:14
This one definitely needs this. 

Rich Bennett 17:16
This is the last one. My favorite. 

Kristie Wolf 17:19
One of my favorite lines. And it's not X-rated. 

Rich Bennett 17:21
I know. 

Kristie Wolf 17:22
I know. 

Rich Bennett 17:23
I know. And it's very strong. 

Kristie Wolf 17:24
Kind of books. 

Rich Bennett 17:25
Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 17:27
But when you do, I'll be the first to buy. 

Kristie Wolf 17:29
I will be first in line. My mother. My mother is so funny. My mother has been reading romance novels, I mean, for literally 60 years. And I know what my mom reads because we share books and I recommend books to her like she reads some filthy stuff. Yeah, but when she reads my books, you won't read the sex scenes. She says she glosses over them because it's just too weird. 

Kayla Deickman 17:52
Her daughter 

I when I turn, when I, when I became an adult and I really got back into reading because, you know, a lot of people go from and have like a slump. And I was like, I read some weird stuff, apparently. But then I, I saw my mom and she was reading something. I was like, What's your reading? And it was the same book that I had been reading. And I was like, I can't ever read the same book at the same time. It makes me uncomfortable. 

Kristie Wolf 18:18
Yeah, yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 18:19
But we've had that happen. But we recommend books back. 

Kristie Wolf 18:22
We don't. Yeah. Mm. And she, she called me the other day and she read Too Dangerous to Love. She read like three different versions of it. So she knew that book very well and then when she read the final version, I had changed. I had to revamp the entire ending and she was like, Yeah, it's still a great book. I love it. And my mom's been very honest with me through my writing career. 27 years ago when I wrote my first book, she read it and she goes, I've read worse, I've read better. I was like, okay. Like, you know. 

Rich Bennett 18:50
That's not a bad Yeah. 

Kristie Wolf 18:52
I took it. I was really happy. So she called me the other day and she's like, I finished Life to the Heart and she's like, I liked I like to dangerous to love, but like a knife to the heart was my kind of book. And I really, really loved it. And she's like, And so, like, when you're writing the next one. And I said, Well, it's going to come out sometime next year. And she's like, Well, can't you write faster? 

Rich Bennett 19:11
You know? 

Kristie Wolf 19:12
And I said, Well, do you want to come over and clean my house and cook dinner and run my kids around faster. 

Rich Bennett 19:17
Than the woods had a speed reading course? I don't think she did a speed writing course. 

Kristie Wolf 19:21
I started writing where exactly my mother can read a book in a day. I can't. 

Rich Bennett 19:25
I can't. 

Kristie Wolf 19:25
I can't write a book in a day. 

Rich Bennett 19:27
Like all right with it. I can't remember if the first book was an audio version or not. 

Kristie Wolf 19:33
No, not yet. I want to. 

Kayla Deickman 19:36
And if if you do graphic audio, like I'd love to do even more. I'm just saying. 

Rich Bennett 19:42
That's the that's the thing. It is a. 

Kayla Deickman 19:44
Thing in the audio book world like you are. 

Rich Bennett 19:47
What the hell is graphic already? 

Kayla Deickman 19:49
It's like you're watching a movie in your brain. For those who don't do that. 

Rich Bennett 19:53
With the narrator special to paint a. 

Kayla Deickman 19:55
Picture. Yeah, but some narrators. 

Kristie Wolf 19:56
Yeah, well, yeah, they don't. You know, there's this graphic NARRATOR Still there? 

Rich Bennett 20:01
Okay. 

Kristie Wolf 20:02
Yeah, There. They get into. 

Kayla Deickman 20:03
It. Yeah, there's multiple, like, people reading it. I'm just saying, like, maybe. Maybe if you do that and. 

Kristie Wolf 20:13
And, you know, I would love to do that. So anybody out there listening who's a romance author buy my books. So I have funds. 

Rich Bennett 20:21
To. 

Kristie Wolf 20:22
Do a proper audiobooks because they're really expensive to. 

Rich Bennett 20:25
Produce actually with that is because with audio books I always I've only heard one voice, but is there audio book where it's given one voice? 

Kristie Wolf 20:33
Yeah, a point of view, yeah. So you'll have like if it's a romance, you'll have a man's voice and a woman's voice. 

Kayla Deickman 20:40
Yeah. And it's, it's great when there's like more than one because I read the books with more than two people and then sometimes. So then you hear all the perspectives. Yes. So cool. And then the the dialogue back and forth. You're hearing everybody's voice in that dialogue rather than one person saying each thing, or even when they switch viewpoints. It's not always. 

Rich Bennett 21:02
I got to say, because, you know, a lot of times joyous author who turn into a movie who would well, I never thought about this for the audiobook version, if you could have, because you know, they are male voices out there that women just cling to and the same females who who would you want. 

Kristie Wolf 21:20
To do it? Oh, no, I'd have to think on that one. I haven't thought about that. 

Kayla Deickman 21:25
That's that's great. That's a great. 

Kristie Wolf 21:27
Yeah, that's a good. 

Rich Bennett 21:27
Question. 

Kayla Deickman 21:28
I think the worst thing. 

Rich Bennett 21:29
I know a lot of I, I, I don't it sounds too weird. I'm thinking of a local guy that everybody knows is no Mike through. Everybody knows Mike Roe's voice. Are you saying who's my group here? 

Kristie Wolf 21:44
I am too. 

Rich Bennett 21:44
Dirty jobs. Oh, 

okay. Payroll. Yeah. Everybody doesn't know now. Or Matthew McConaughey. Well, that could play. 

Kristie Wolf 21:57
You know, if he's free, why not? 

Rich Bennett 22:02
Because you have voiceover actors. Yeah, Yeah. If people don't know their names. 

Kayla Deickman 22:07
Right. 

Rich Bennett 22:08
But then there are certain people, even you hear them on the radio, you just know that voice. 

Kristie Wolf 22:16
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 22:16
And oh, graphic audio. 

Kayla Deickman 22:20
I mean, everybody knows your voice, you know? 

Rich Bennett 22:23
Yeah. Who's the guy with the Baltimore accent? I mean, that does not take place in Baltimore. Baltimore where they put. 

Kristie Wolf 22:31
This one takes place in Colorado. 

Rich Bennett 22:32
That's right. See? So I want to be a. 

Kristie Wolf 22:34
Couple hours out of Denver. Yeah. It's a town called Red Snow. 

Rich Bennett 22:39
I could be at snow. 

Kristie Wolf 22:42
But then but then when the snow turns red from blood, they refer to it as blood snow. That's why it's the blood snow series. 

Rich Bennett 22:51
Okay, so la la la la. Kristen, we know your favorite part because we talked about we're not on Halo. 

Kayla Deickman 23:00
So I. 

Rich Bennett 23:01
You're not allowed to pick the same part because I know that's what you're going to say. 

Kayla Deickman 23:04
No, it's more along the lines of I just really like the book. Look, it's hard for me to pick my favorite parts in books because I do read I read a lot. 

Kristie Wolf 23:13
I'm I'm probably read 15 books. 20 books. And. 

Rich Bennett 23:17
Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 23:17
So actually, you're probably right on the line I'm on about I think I'm on book like we're on we're in March. I think I'm on book like 30 for the year. So like, yeah, that would probably be right about there. So but I overall I really did enjoy this book and I do recommend it to people. Not that my recommendation matters to anybody. 

Rich Bennett 23:37
But does. Did you write a review for you? It no I'm not. 

Kayla Deickman 23:42
Terrible person I. 

Rich Bennett 23:43
Have 

Oh my goodness have a good time 

and. 

Kristie Wolf 23:49
I am the worst part of you. 

Rich Bennett 23:53
Because the. 

Kayla Deickman 23:53
Worst part is is I do book reviews for multiple author. Mm. So I don't know how I missed it. I'm like I will, I will tell you good reason Amazon now. 

Rich Bennett 24:04
Because there's a certain part of the book that's still in your mind and you just got to keep going back and read it probably. 

Kayla Deickman 24:10
Yeah And 

I mean let's be real. We all learn a thing or two from all the spicy scenes that we read in life and it is amazing. 

Kristie Wolf 24:20
But if you want to know. 

Rich Bennett 24:21
She now I got I'm I'm going to have to read both of your books. You should you should try it. I 

well, thank you because it look, if my wife sees it, she sees I'm enjoying it. She's going to take the book and I'm not going to get it back. 

Kayla Deickman 24:38
Well, sometimes you should share the copy. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 24:41
Yeah. 

Kristie Wolf 24:42
Buy two copies. There's two covers by one of each. Yep. Then you can have the cover without the naked document. 

Rich Bennett 24:48
You can have the one with 

another. Good suggestion. So please, I'm not going to see that. 

So I write it. 

Kayla Deickman 25:02
So you know, I've given you all. 

Rich Bennett 25:06
That rear ended up here. When did it come out? 

Kristie Wolf 25:09
It came out February 15th. 

Rich Bennett 25:10
February 15th. 

Kristie Wolf 25:11
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 25:11
Oh go figure. Day at around that. 

Kristie Wolf 25:13
Yeah. The day after. And it takes place around Valentine's Day I would. 

Kayla Deickman 25:17
Say like right. 

Kristie Wolf 25:18
On Valentine's Day. 

Rich Bennett 25:20
With this cute. I don't know I came or if you did this with the first book or not but with this did you do a beta copy to get testimonials? 

Kristie Wolf 25:29
Yes. Yes. So they're called art copies. Advance Reader. That's what I pay. Look at one of them. 

Rich Bennett 25:34
We're designing a company, which is why you. 

Kristie Wolf 25:36
Have beta readers. 

Kayla Deickman 25:38
Okay, Beta readers are there to test to make sure there's no grammatical errors. 

Rich Bennett 25:42
Or. 

Kayla Deickman 25:42
Things like that, that not necessarily an art reader or a author will catch right away. 

Rich Bennett 25:48
Okay, so is your. 

Kayla Deickman 25:50
Close to editing so that you know your editor doesn't. 

Rich Bennett 25:54
Think so? She ask readers, you send it to art readers, let's call them for it to get testimonials. 

Kristie Wolf 26:01
Right, right, right. Before it comes out. 

Kayla Deickman 26:03
Comes out. 

Rich Bennett 26:03
I'm sorry. You say K-Doe was one. Yeah. Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 26:06
Oh, I'm. I'm an art reader for a lot of authors. 

Rich Bennett 26:08
Would you say you didn't write a testimonial? 

Kayla Deickman 26:11
I know that this is where I was like, Oh, crap. Because we had we have been texting and messaging about it. I probably thought at some one I did, 

but now I read for probably I think it's around like six or seven authors. 

Rich Bennett 26:28
And I wonder you're reading so many books. 

Kayla Deickman 26:30
And that's the thing is I do read a lot. So which is why I'm like, I just I just finished an art read for my on a call last week. So and so I like taking a reading. 

Rich Bennett 26:40
I said, do me a favor, tell everybody, because this is good for not just aspiring authors, but even kernel authors, Why it's important to have our readers. 

Kristie Wolf 26:52
One of the main reasons that we ask people to read our book is so we can get from a marketing standpoint, so we can get reviews before the book comes out. So on release day, when someone goes to Amazon or Goodreads and says, Oh, there's this new author, I want to check out her book, or you know, they say they see an ad or a post someplace, right? They can see ten people have read this book already and ten people liked it or just see like, oh, it has five stars and. 

Kayla Deickman 27:19
It's great for when it's great for when there's like books that are being preordered right by individuals. Because I'm more likely as a reader to preorder a book that's already been reviewed. I personally minus Red Tower books, when they do their mystery books, do not buy or preorder books unless I see a review. But that's just partially because I want to make sure the story makes sense. And there are some books out there where and I'm assuming they haven't been necessarily read where the story might not make sense. Yeah, your story makes plenty of things. 

Kristie Wolf 27:54
So I think I did At. 

Rich Bennett 27:56
The end of the book, I got to figure out how I'm going to assist or to where it doesn't sound. Never mind just at the end of the book, does it leave the reader wanting more? 

Kristie Wolf 28:08
Yes, I think I think it does. So it's a series and but they can all be read as standalone. So I have the. 

Kayla Deickman 28:16
Main character, multiple people that you introduce to. All right. Okay. So you're not going to necessarily see this, the content continuation of this love story, but you're going to. 

Kristie Wolf 28:29
You're going to get someone else the. 

Kayla Deickman 28:30
Next one that you've already. Yes. Hey, like I know you. 

Rich Bennett 28:35
Mm. 

Kristie Wolf 28:36
And so this book is about Dr. Catherine Ford and Special Agent Rosalie Zehner. And then Dr. Canon Ford has two friends in the book who are big parts of the book. 

Kayla Deickman 28:47
And which friend. 

Kristie Wolf 28:48
And so the next book will be about Easton and Dr. Canon Ford's sister, Julia. And so you get a sense of their story and then them coming together and then you'll get their their story in the next book. 

Rich Bennett 29:03
And which book were their kids being? 

Kristie Wolf 29:06
You know, if you people keep this place. 

Rich Bennett 29:09
Yes. Is know they're going to have kids. 

Kristie Wolf 29:11
People like this town that I've created, I'll keep writing books. I mean, we can just keep never know. 

Kayla Deickman 29:16
Now I think the town. 

Kristie Wolf 29:17
Right, right, right now I'm planning for books for this series. So Canon and Rosalie's book and then Easton and Julia's book and then his friends, 

who is a police officer, he's going to get his own story grading. And then the security guard, Wolf, who was not supposed to have his own book. But then my editor sent me a note three quarters of the way through the book, and she said, please tell me the security guard is going to get his happily ever after because I really, really like him. And I was like, well, he is now. 

Rich Bennett 29:47
Yeah, well, it's a security guard going to have his own book. Yes. 

Kristie Wolf 29:51
And it's going to have his own book. Yep. And the two. So yeah, that's one of the friends and another friend. 

Rich Bennett 29:56
Note to all you people that love to read these books, I think handcuffs are going to be involved in both of these books. 

Kristie Wolf 30:02
There is handcuffs involved in this one. 

Rich Bennett 30:04
That one day. Oh, good Lord. Oh, that's right. FBI agent, right? Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 30:07
Yeah. 

Kristie Wolf 30:08
They had two. 

Kayla Deickman 30:08
Handcuffs are great. 

Rich Bennett 30:12
Clues to. 

Kayla Deickman 30:12
Read. About to read about. 

Rich Bennett 30:16
Does your husband listen to this podcast? 

Kayla Deickman 30:19
Sometimes. But I'm more worried about my other family. 

Rich Bennett 30:23
On a. 

Kayla Deickman 30:25
Side note, this is not the podcast for any of my family. 

Rich Bennett 30:30
And. 

Kristie Wolf 30:31
My mom. Just skip over the part about the handcuffs. Like when you're reading my books. Just fast forward 30 seconds 

and went. 

Rich Bennett 30:41
Oh God, oh goodness. How did you actually come up with the characters, their names? 

Kristie Wolf 30:47
Oh, so for Canon Ford, I was on again work related. I was on a call and there was a speaker from one of our one of our clients, and his name was Billy Cannon. And I was like, That's a cool name. 

Kayla Deickman 31:03
That's, you know. 

Kristie Wolf 31:04
Canon. And so I told my agent, I do have an agent. I've indeed published these two books, but I do have an agent for when I want to try to go the traditional route. I said, I'm writing a new romantic suspense and that the character's name is Canon, and she was like, Publishers are just so over weird names, you know? She's like, Just just go with a more traditional name. And I was like, Nope, I'm totally stuck on Canon. And so then a few months later, I went to swim team practice one morning and there was this adorable little like six year old boy, and his name was Canon. You know, like, well, like, that's like, like, that's not a name I made up. Like somebody is actually Canon. And then a few months after that, no, not a few months, maybe like a year or so after that, I was on Instagram and I saw one of my favorite authors, Zoya Bennett. She had a book. The character's name was Canon, and the name of the book was Canon. I was like, Let's do something. 

Rich Bennett 31:56
More common name then. Yeah. Then she said, Huh? 

Kristie Wolf 31:59
So I was I kept it that Doctor Canon Ford. And then my heroine's name is Rosalie, and I rose like a red rose. The flower is a it's a it's very symbolic in this book. It's a big part of the book. 

Rich Bennett 32:13
The red. 

Kristie Wolf 32:13
The red. 

Rich Bennett 32:14
Rose. 

Kristie Wolf 32:16
Know blood, Rosalie, red snow and so that's why, like her, her name came after I started writing the book like, okay, what? I don't know why the character's name is going to be. I just like, I just think of flowers. Betty or Sue or S.L.. 

Kayla Deickman 32:31
You come up. 

Kristie Wolf 32:32
With, you know, something like whatever just popped into my head, and then I changed it line. So, like, I see, like the story kind of tells me sometimes what the character's name needs to be. 

Kayla Deickman 32:43
I love it, love it, love it. 

Rich Bennett 32:46
Go ahead. Collider You got some questions, actually. What's it like to be an arc reader? 

Kayla Deickman 32:51
Oh, I love I love reading books. I like reviewing books, which again, sorry about my feelings for you. 

Kristie Wolf 33:00
I have new reviews to look forward to now, though. 

Kayla Deickman 33:03
Yeah, Yeah, you do. And I've actually I've been recommending your book to quite a few of my friends. Thank you. And I belong to a book group, so I play some of them, actually. 

Rich Bennett 33:11
Like, how far in advance do you do you send a copy out to New York readers? Six months. 

Kristie Wolf 33:17
Six weeks to. 

Kayla Deickman 33:18
On average for ARC readers and being an arc reader for a very long time? For people, I'd say it's about six weeks. 

Kristie Wolf 33:26
Let's say six months. I'm in six weeks. 

Rich Bennett 33:28
6 to 8 months before I would need six months. 

Kayla Deickman 33:31
And the reason being is you don't want your you don't want your ARC readers to forget about your. 

Rich Bennett 33:37
Book. 

Kayla Deickman 33:38
Right now. Again, I just said I just reviewed book the other day and I read it in a couple of days and from another author, and I actually messaged her because I was like, Hey, like, Amazon's not letting me, like, review your book, What is going on? And she's like, Because you, you read it so quickly that we don't we don't have that. Like, you got to wait till it like truly releases on Amazon and to like leave the review And I was like, I've never had that happen before. 

Rich Bennett 34:07
Wow. 

Kayla Deickman 34:08
So found that out. So for your ARC readers, just so you're aware that does that does happen. But I don't typically do good reads reviews right? I'm just because I have a good reviews account that I very rarely use, which is like sacrilege. 

Rich Bennett 34:23
Well, actually, if you put it on good reach, does it automatically carry over to Amazon and vice versa? 

Kristie Wolf 34:29
Or I think Amazon will tell you what the Goodreads rating is. 

Kayla Deickman 34:33
But it doesn't. 

Kristie Wolf 34:34
Have the reviews. 

Kayla Deickman 34:35
Yeah. Interesting. 

Kristie Wolf 34:37
Yeah. Like it'll say like 4.5. 

Kayla Deickman 34:39
That's why a lot of our readers, they just copy and paste. Yeah, Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 34:43
I figure it's is Amazon a good read? They would have figured out some way to. 

Kayla Deickman 34:47
As I have a love hate relationship with the way that Amazon and their publishing and I just kind of Yeah. 

Kristie Wolf 34:55
Sometimes they don't make it easy on us. 

Kayla Deickman 34:57
I actually don't go through them for publishing for my children's books because I cannot stand. 

Rich Bennett 35:04
I cannot stand them. Yep. But it's also helped a lot of authors in. 

Kayla Deickman 35:08
Oh, Oh. 

Kristie Wolf 35:09
Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 35:09
Yeah. I know small. 

Rich Bennett 35:11
Businesses as well. Yeah. And you know. 

Kristie Wolf 35:13
And so if there are any anybody, any romance readers out there who are interested in becoming ARC readers like Kayla, as authors, we sincerely appreciate our readers. And there is a a group on Facebook that you can join, and I'm going to look it up right now so I can give you the right name where you can get information about our read. So you know, you can post and say, Hey, I'd love to be an arc reader. I this is what I like to read and then people will contact you. So it's called ARC HRC Group for readers and authors, and it's a private group on Facebook. And then you can scroll through it and, you know, authors I post there and I say, Hey, I got this romantic suspense coming out on February 15th. This is what it's about. If you're interested in reading an arc copy, let me know and then we send you an electronic copy. Or I work with a company and they they help me with the arc read. 

Kayla Deickman 36:07
So I think I got you. 

Kristie Wolf 36:08
Yeah. So you'll get a form, you'll fill the formal, you'll agree that you'll read it and review it by a certain date. If you're going to give it less than three stars like. 

Kayla Deickman 36:18
They ask you, they ask. Yes. 

Kristie Wolf 36:20
Well I hope they manage the whole process. And so that's really helpful because I'm I'm still new at this publishing thing, so I'll help you. 

Kayla Deickman 36:27
Get the. 

Kristie Wolf 36:28
Better. Oh, thank you. I'm trying. Oh, I started a tock shop. 

Kayla Deickman 36:35
Oh, yeah? You were telling me that we shot. 

Kristie Wolf 36:37
She was. 

Kayla Deickman 36:37
Also talking. 

Kristie Wolf 36:38
About. Yes, we were talking about that the other day. And so I started it. I think I may. 

Kayla Deickman 36:44
Have you texted me about it. 

Kristie Wolf 36:46
But I made it live that night. Oh, you did? I made it live. And I figured out my question and I texted you about. Yeah, I. 

Kayla Deickman 36:51
Saw. Saw the little. 

Kristie Wolf 36:53
Little icon. Yes. Yes, I figured that I get a little shopping. I can't. Yes. 

Rich Bennett 36:57
Okay. 

Kristie Wolf 36:58
And you can buy things on TikTok. So if you're looking at someone's video and there's a little shopping cart, right, you can click it and then you can buy their products. 

Kayla Deickman 37:05
Okay, Remember, fulfill as quickly as possible. 

Kristie Wolf 37:08
Oh, I know you have like three days to get a violation. And so I. 

Kayla Deickman 37:12
Guess TikTok has very strict about. 

Kristie Wolf 37:14
You have to send I have. 

Kayla Deickman 37:16
A tick tock shop and I'm honestly kind of thankful 

because I've been using my stock every week. 

Rich Bennett 37:22
Who is this stuff also available on your website? 

Kristie Wolf 37:24
It's available on my website because I know that. 

Rich Bennett 37:26
Night now too. 

Kristie Wolf 37:28
And my husband gave me this cup for Christmas. It's a it's a big mug that has. 

Rich Bennett 37:33
Oh, he bought. 

Kristie Wolf 37:35
It for me. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 37:35
Oh, okay. 

Kristie Wolf 37:36
Isn't that cool? I putting my name and my. 

Rich Bennett 37:38
Book cover on. I think you should put that something like that on your website. 

Kayla Deickman 37:42
I should. I just found a website that I've been using to make, like, tote bags and cute little things, pens, tote bags, stuff. I my share it with you. I'll text that you did. 

Kristie Wolf 37:52
Is that the. 

Kayla Deickman 37:52
Volvo? 

Kristie Wolf 37:53
Yeah, I was there. 

Kayla Deickman 37:54
Yesterday so I was looking up pricing out tote bags. I think you should put your book cover us on a tote bag. 

Rich Bennett 38:01
Absolutely. 

Kristie Wolf 38:02
That's what my mother gave me for Christmas. 

Kayla Deickman 38:04
Because. 

Kristie Wolf 38:04
That bag with my book cover on it. 

Kayla Deickman 38:06
So I'm thinking you should do that and then let me buy one from you. I will order a tester back and I'll be a tester for that. 

Kristie Wolf 38:15
I will leave me a review and I'll give you a free. 

Rich Bennett 38:18
Yeah, yeah. 

So tell everybody why they need why they. Yeah, why they need to buy this boat. Because the last thing. 

Kayla Deickman 38:30
You need by the book, because of that. 

Rich Bennett 38:32
You either come with three chili peppers, right. 

Kristie Wolf 38:35
Three chili peppers. I mean and you might think it's four Chili peppers. So this book is with any romance, you're guaranteed a happily ever after. And so and I think that that's so important for us, like as a society, like we you know, we read, we watch TV, we watch movies for conflict. Like, think about it when when you're down, when things are crazy in your life, when you're upset about something, when you're anxious, you sit down, you watch a movie, you read a book, you watch TV to relax, but then you're thrown into somebody else's world where something bad is happening, you know, even if it's even if you're watching a cartoon. 

Kayla Deickman 39:12
Yeah. 

Kristie Wolf 39:12
Something. Something is wrong. Like the kid. The little kid has lost his red ball. And if he doesn't find that Red Bull, he can't play with his. 

Kayla Deickman 39:20
Friends vested in into making sure that. 

Kristie Wolf 39:22
Exact. 

Kayla Deickman 39:22
Person gets the read. 

Kristie Wolf 39:23
Exactly. Yeah. And you're you're watching and you're reading because you are waiting for their conflict resolution because that's what you are craving for your own life. And so you can step away and see someone else get that conflict resolution and then feel hopeful that you can find that, too. And when you read a romance, that's the definition of romance. There's a guaranteed happily ever after. So it's just a feel good feeling. Like when you finish the book and you're like, Oh, okay, it all worked out like for just a few minutes. There's good in the world and everybody is happy. 

Rich Bennett 39:55
This is you can just smile on the way. Well, it made me happy. 

Kayla Deickman 39:59
I think that's part of the reason I love reading romance books, because it just it is that feel good. Like I know I have probably six worn out copies of random books on my shelves that are my hat. Like when people watch the same TV show, they're my comfort reads. So this one will be an add on on my fourth shelf. However, I may end up having to buy the other copies so I can keep one nice and one that I can come through. 

Rich Bennett 40:27
Okay. No. You want the other copy because it's got the male model on the front. You ain't lying. Anybody. 

Kayla Deickman 40:33
Don't call me out like that. 

Rich Bennett 40:35
Okay? And I do two covers. 

Kayla Deickman 40:38
Which I think is also really nice because there's not a lot of authors that I've come across that does multi covers and do like that because I go out places and I take books with me wherever I go. And and sometimes I'm at events that I'm, you know, I sell my own books. I don't necessarily want people to see what I'm reading. Right. 

Kristie Wolf 40:58
Right. 

Kayla Deickman 40:58
And so I do like having some of the discreet cover. 

Kristie Wolf 41:01
Yeah. So we have a discreet cover and we have, I call it the man chest cover. 

Kayla Deickman 41:05
I love Manchester. 

Kristie Wolf 41:06
Because, you know, I've I've been reading romance novels since I'm a teenager, and I grew up reading books with Fabio on the cover, you know, and half Naked pirates and. 

Kayla Deickman 41:16
All the time. 

Kristie Wolf 41:16
And so that's that's my jam. Like, that's that's always I'm always going to do a cover. So to me. 

Rich Bennett 41:21
I'm just falling before my chest drop. I should be a male model for books. 

Kayla Deickman 41:27
So I do have a kind of a sidebar question for you about too dangerous to Love. When are you going to get the tattooed on for yourself? 

Kristie Wolf 41:36
Oh, oh, that's a great question. 

Kayla Deickman 41:40
Like, I think I feel as though as somebody who loves tattoos. 

Kristie Wolf 41:45
That's a good question. So I into too dangerous to love. It's called the Project Viper Series. And Project Viper is the name of this top secret Department of Defense program that gives special Forces amputees, weaponized prosthetics, and turns them into the nation's first generation of super soldiers. And so there's a Project Viper logo, and all four of my project, Viper teammates have the logo tattooed on their chest. So Kayla is asking when I'm getting that logo tattooed someplace on my body. 

Rich Bennett 42:13
As you say, not all your chest. 

Kristie Wolf 42:14
Not on my chest, No, on my chest. Maybe I'm thinking on the inside of my wrist. 

Kayla Deickman 42:19
That would be. 

Kristie Wolf 42:19
And yes. And so my brother and my best friends have been on me to get tattoos. Like every time I see my brother, he's like, Come on, get in the car. I'll pay for it. Let's go. 

Rich Bennett 42:27
How many times? 

Kristie Wolf 42:28
I don't have any. 

Rich Bennett 42:29
You have any tattoo? 

Kayla Deickman 42:30
You're a tattoo. 

Kristie Wolf 42:32
I would. 

Kayla Deickman 42:32
Convert. 

Kristie Wolf 42:33
To. 

Kayla Deickman 42:34
Be. That is what the mother bought. 

Rich Bennett 42:37
Well, now look back at history. 

Kristie Wolf 42:41
Inspiration. Christie's been inspired. 

Rich Bennett 42:43
What? 

Kayla Deickman 42:44
That is lovely. Yeah. No, because as somebody who is covered in tattoos and is getting ready to get a book related. So you've done. I'm just over here like I need a tattoo book, buddy. 

Kristie Wolf 42:59
Yes. I was thinking about like, I want to reach some sort of milestone like, and then be, like, okay, like, and reward myself with a tattoo. I'm not sure what that milestone is. Yeah, I was thinking maybe when I sold a thousand books. 

Kayla Deickman 43:12
A thousand copies is, like, my favorite. My right. 

Kristie Wolf 43:15
So people make you tell your friends about my book so Kayla can get a tattoo, buddy? 

Rich Bennett 43:22
Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 43:23
Please. I love tattoo. 

Rich Bennett 43:24
Okay, Christie. Now I'm. Now I'm going to quiz you. 

Kristie Wolf 43:27
Sure. I hope I don't fail. 

Rich Bennett 43:29
Oh, that's a final one. So the last time you were on the show, we were talking about marketing. You remember what I told you you should do? 

Kristie Wolf 43:39
No, I'm sorry. 

Rich Bennett 43:42
I told every author this. I know. Caitlin knows. 

Kristie Wolf 43:45
She totally knows. I can see it in her face. 

Rich Bennett 43:48
Get on podcast. 

Kayla Deickman 43:49
Get on. 

Kristie Wolf 43:49
Yes, yes, yes. 

Rich Bennett 43:51
I remember we met. Yes. How many have you been on so far? 

Kristie Wolf 43:54
I this is my third and I'm. 

Rich Bennett 43:57
Doing. 

Kristie Wolf 43:58
Another one on Thursday. 

Kayla Deickman 44:00
Are you doing it with Danielle? Yeah. Okay. 

Rich Bennett 44:03
So you're sticking local. 

Kristie Wolf 44:05
I did one with a gentleman from another country. I don't remember what their country was called. English literature. He reached out to me on Instagram and we did that, but so it'll be four and I filled out interest forms for two other romance book related podcasts. 

Rich Bennett 44:22
Was that through new books network? 

Kristie Wolf 44:24
No, there was another. I'm a New Jersey romance author that I met. 

Kayla Deickman 44:30
On. 

Kristie Wolf 44:30
Sky, McDonald's, and then I don't remember the name of the other one that I filled out this morning, so. 

Kayla Deickman 44:37
I can't wait to hear from. 

Kristie Wolf 44:39
But yeah, this great. I want to do more podcasts. 

Rich Bennett 44:42
See, now when did you come on mind? Do you remember how long ago. 

Kristie Wolf 44:45
Was my book released? In October. So it might have been in September. 

Rich Bennett 44:48
Okay, I was here for I don't I don't think it's been a year. 

Kristie Wolf 44:51
No, it hasn't. 

Rich Bennett 44:52
So let's just say six months. Okay. I'm going to take it easy on you. But within that six months, because you have the equipment at home, right. To record virtually, did you have it back then? 

Kristie Wolf 45:04
I did. 

Rich Bennett 45:05
Okay. So you say six months time, but you should have been on to a week. 

Kayla Deickman 45:13
Huh? I can't even get to a week. How are you doing? 

Rich Bennett 45:17
I recorded episodes a week. 

Kristie Wolf 45:19
Like record my own. Like. Like other people's. 

Rich Bennett 45:22
Other people don't. Yeah. Get on other people's podcast. And if you 

contact me when you get home, I'll send you the link. New books Network is a great one because they're always looking for new releases and they have different genres and they have millions of downloads. Okay, cool. It's really come go on. And I got I have a ton of people I can send you to because if you just stick local, I hate to say, but it's something a lot of your local podcasts are that they're. 

Kristie Wolf 45:55
Local, right? Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 45:58
With the exception of me and a few others, you know where we expand. But if you go on and you already did one in another country, but if you get on other podcasts everywhere because you want to reach everywhere. 

Kristie Wolf 46:10
As many people as like. 

Kayla Deickman 46:11
Yeah, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 46:12
I just had a lady on the other day and her one book has already been, I think she says, been printing. Is it 15 different languages? 

Kristie Wolf 46:22
Oh wow. Yeah, that would be cool. 

Kayla Deickman 46:24
Oh, I also belong to actually do. 

Rich Bennett 46:26
It for children's books. 

Kayla Deickman 46:27
Too. I know they. 

Rich Bennett 46:28
Did. 

Kayla Deickman 46:30
I there's a couple author groups that I belong to on Facebook. I belong on to it because I read, but I'll have to send you the link to thank you because then you can connect with some other authors and do other events. 

Rich Bennett 46:43
Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 46:43
I know you travel across the country for events, so what events do you have coming up this year? 

Kristie Wolf 46:48
So let's see, I. 

Rich Bennett 46:50
Guess besides Nashville. 

Kristie Wolf 46:52
Yesterday I filled out my application for the Air Festival of Arts, so it looks like I'm going to be there in. 

Kayla Deickman 46:58
Our own little. 

Rich Bennett 46:59
Or Nashville's. No answers. No. 

Kristie Wolf 47:01
No, that's for work. That's for work. 

Rich Bennett 47:03
But I'm sorry, you're an entrepreneur. 

Kristie Wolf 47:05
That's true. But when my plan is when I start, when I travel for work, I have like six or seven trips coming up to different states. I'm a cities, rather. I'm going to contact local bookstores, libraries and such. And that's amazing, you know, because like the night before our event, I, you know, I have it to myself or I could stay an extra day or something like, Have you. 

Kayla Deickman 47:27
Gotten to your book into like any of the East Coast bookstores yet? Like Bethany Beach Books? 

Kristie Wolf 47:32
I I'm working on that, but I'm super excited. Nora Roberts, the Queen of Romance. They bought four copies of my book. So all. 

Rich Bennett 47:42
My books. 

Kristie Wolf 47:43
And nor my books and Nora's. 

Rich Bennett 47:45
Show allow you to stay there free. 

Kristie Wolf 47:48
I was I and I actually need to contact them because they said, if you want to come in and sign them, they'll display them as signed copies. So that's a nice thing to do. And I love it. They're I'm so excited. I know a copy of my book is in Backwater Books and Ellicott. 

Rich Bennett 48:04
City, Maine. Okay. 

Kristie Wolf 48:06
And so but I need to like, contact Bethany Books and those places. 

Kayla Deickman 48:10
And I'm sure there's a lot of local stores as well that would love to carry your box. So are you in Barnes Noble's or no? Yeah. 

Kristie Wolf 48:20
Barnes and Noble isn't very indie friendly. You know, they don't hire the authors. I am going to be at the Barnes and Noble in Ellicott City, I believe, on April 20th with several Maryland romance writers. And so we're going to be doing like a group book signing there, which. Yep, Ellicott City. So that'll be like my first foray into Barnes and Noble. So I'm pretty excited about that. 

Rich Bennett 48:48
Have you been any convention? 

Kristie Wolf 48:50
I haven't. I have three lined up, like three like, like big ones where like you buy tickets to go to. Yeah. There's dreaming dirty in Maryland's way. I love the title, which is on May 4th. 

Kayla Deickman 49:04
And say that Winston and. 

Rich Bennett 49:05
Martha see the shirts? 

Kristie Wolf 49:07
Yes. Oh, yeah. And then on July 27th, I'm going to be at Romantic Con in Trumbull, Connecticut now. And then in October I'll be up in Foxborough, Massachusetts, for Fall in Love, New England. And then I have two lined up for next year. One is called million something a million people. I forget what it's called, something with a million. 

Rich Bennett 49:29
You're getting out. I mean, you're going everywhere. 

Kristie Wolf 49:31
Which. 

Rich Bennett 49:31
Is good. 

Kristie Wolf 49:32
And then another big one next year called Electric City Love Con in Pennsylvania. Yeah, I love I love I love going out and meeting people. I've been to the Abingdon Library other for copies of my books in the Harford County Public Library System. So that was really exciting. Yay! 

Rich Bennett 49:47
Because Mary wants to read them. What? 

Kristie Wolf 49:51
And one of them was even checked out, so I checked it out to find out. Even more exciting. 

Rich Bennett 49:56
Was probably her. 

Kristie Wolf 49:57
But I. 

Rich Bennett 49:58
I just lost my necklace. It's on your. 

Kristie Wolf 50:00
It's my earrings. 

Rich Bennett 50:01
You say it's around your neck something? 

Kristie Wolf 50:05
Yeah. So I've been to libraries. I'm from New Jersey. I was just in a New Jersey library, and in May, I'm going to the library in North Bergen, New Jersey, where I grew up. So that will be really exciting. The coffee shop on Main Street in Bel-Air, I go to frequently and do events and. 

Kayla Deickman 50:21
Seeing each other. 

Kristie Wolf 50:22
On the. 

Rich Bennett 50:23
Street, Oh, the coffee. 

Kayla Deickman 50:24
Bar. We'll be seeing each other at the coffee bar coming up soon. One week. 

Kristie Wolf 50:27
I think, right? Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 50:29
Yeah. And on my kalorama I'm pretty sure it's May. 

Kristie Wolf 50:31
And then in August will be the first annual Bel Air Book Festival. Yeah, at the Armory. Let me look up the date. My. 

Rich Bennett 50:39
Oh, they're, they're doing a separate one. 

Kristie Wolf 50:41
Yeah. The book festival. 

Kayla Deickman 50:43
And yeah, those are going to be a decent amount. I mean, I have to still pay my vendor fee, but I'll be there. 

Kristie Wolf 50:50
Yep. August 10th. 

Kayla Deickman 50:52
Yeah. And you'll be there. 

Kristie Wolf 50:54
I'll be there too. My friend Samantha is is running it, who is a young adult author. 

Kayla Deickman 50:59
Okay. And she's the one that's also doing that. The the accoutrement. 

Kristie Wolf 51:04
Yes. 

Kayla Deickman 51:04
Yeah. I'm going to that. 

Rich Bennett 51:06
I'm going to. 

Kristie Wolf 51:06
That's how you get your dress. Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 51:08
No, I haven't. Yeah, because I've been, like, trying to find the perfect dress. My husband's coming with me. Oh, nice. And I'm going to. He's letting me dress him up, so I'm excited. 

Kristie Wolf 51:20
And just looking at us like we have to hold. 

Rich Bennett 51:22
On. To what? 

Kristie Wolf 51:25
So the book, The series by Sara moss, A card of Thorn in Roses. 

Kayla Deickman 51:29
You mean the cult series? 

Kristie Wolf 51:30
The cult series. 

Kayla Deickman 51:33
Think of it like. 

Rich Bennett 51:35
Well, what did you call it? A what? 

Kayla Deickman 51:36
A It's a it's a cult series. 

Rich Bennett 51:38
Everybody loves at the book. The thing you're going to. 

Kayla Deickman 51:41
Oh, acoustic. 

Kristie Wolf 51:42
Guitar. A chord. 

Kayla Deickman 51:43
Of Thorn in Roses. 

Rich Bennett 51:44
Again. Oh, okay. 

Kayla Deickman 51:45
Remember, every cults got acronym. Yeah, but your friend is running that. And I'm so excited to be one of the people. 

Kristie Wolf 51:53
Going, Which court are you going to go. 

Kayla Deickman 51:55
Out? So I think we're going to go with Autumn. 

Kristie Wolf 51:59
Oh, no, because. 

Kayla Deickman 52:00
My husband, the way that he looks, really gives off illusion Y. 

Rich Bennett 52:05
Oh. 

Kayla Deickman 52:07
Because he's got a long hair. Yeah. Even so that I can put makeup on and dress him up. So I think I'm going to even splurge and you know, I'm a crafter. I think we're going to make some wings. Hi, sir. Fine. I'm ready for a little. I'm going to put the hair and twirl it up some and I'm going to make them look really, hopefully very, very charming. 

Kristie Wolf 52:30
I don't know that I can get my husband to go with me tonight. It's the night of my son's prom, so I might be. And I don't how I'm going to like how I'm going to pull this off because I'm going to have to get dressed, like in my I'm going I'm doing night court, so I'm going to be in my night court dress and I'm going to have my lawyers on and my hair, my makeup. So it'll be all done. And then I have to go wherever my son and his friend are taking pictures and they're all going to be in their dresses and I'm going to be this weird mom all dressed up. 

Kayla Deickman 52:57
Well, and you know what? I own that. Oh, that's. 

Rich Bennett 53:00
A bit like, Well. 

Kristie Wolf 53:01
I'm going to an avatar party. 

Kayla Deickman 53:03
What are you doing? You're just going to prom? Yeah, 

Avatar is very important Yesterday in age society. 

Kristie Wolf 53:10
Yes. And so our friends is hosting a party called a Night and Volaris and Volaris is the fantasy world that they use. Some of Avatar takes place in. 

Kayla Deickman 53:20
Yes, we know spoilers here. 

Kristie Wolf 53:22
Yep. And there is within Avatar there are different courts. There's the night court and the Supreme Court in the autumn Court in the summer court. So and they each have. 

Kayla Deickman 53:32
Their own like kind of like their. 

Kristie Wolf 53:33
Own vibe. 

Kayla Deickman 53:34
Yeah. The theme. 

Kristie Wolf 53:36
Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 53:37
Scheme. 

Kristie Wolf 53:37
So I always, I like black I'm going to go night court, There'll be lots of sparkles involved. 

Kayla Deickman 53:43
So I was, we were going to go night court. But then I realized that I was like, I really, really want to wear something that I don't normally wear. And I wear a lot of black, which I never wear here, but I wear a lot of black. So I was like, I want to kind of bring in some color. Plus, my husband's very, very pale of a person, so he does not give off night court vibes for me because he he would light up under the stars. 

Kristie Wolf 54:11
Although Ross had some beautiful Supreme Court like dresses that I could get on board with. Yeah I really pretty pastel colors. 

Kayla Deickman 54:20
I very trying to go like for my own personal I was kind of going like, like a Elaine's vibe. Elaine I want to do some like lighter colors for myself, but I really want my husband to go in that fall out. 

Rich Bennett 54:36
But who. 

Kayla Deickman 54:36
Knows? Yeah, well, see, all I know is I ordered some moccasins for him on Amazon, like some dark green, selfish styled one. I can't. 

Kristie Wolf 54:47
Wait. It's going to be so much exciting. You want to come, Rich? 

Rich Bennett 54:52
I, 

I we can go completely confused here. Well, I mean, I'm. I don't know. I'm like, it's. I'm afraid of this world now because we go for three chili. Hot, spicy, sexy. See you all dressing up for this thing. Back in the day when I was growing up, that was called like Orgy. 

Well aware and very virginal. Listen, what the hell is going on here? 

I'm fantasizing, but I know authors get together for this kind of stuff. It's not just out there. 

Kayla Deickman 55:38
And I wouldn't say it's fans of this book series. It's great. 

Rich Bennett 55:43
Yeah. 

Kayla Deickman 55:43
Well, again, like I said, this book series has like a cult, like. 

Kristie Wolf 55:48
Following, it's a big deal. 

Kayla Deickman 55:50
It is a very big deal. My husband's currently reading the books because he was like, It is such a he saw that it was such a big deal in our lives that my friends lives and their husbands lives. He's like, I've got to read them now he's on book two, so I can't spoil much for. 

Kristie Wolf 56:05
No, no, no. There's, there's, there's, there's. 

Kayla Deickman 56:07
There's a lot that goes on with world. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 56:10
So the crazy question for you because we know you're the male model on the covers of photo that a photographer have you ever thought about finding somebody that looks similar to him and now for the new book with him and her and then asking them to go to these book shows or to conventions. 

Kayla Deickman 56:33
So that is pretty common, actually. 

Rich Bennett 56:35
I figured it probably would be. 

Kristie Wolf 56:37
The model is a lot of the models go to the book conventions. 

Kayla Deickman 56:40
And they do signings and they'll sign your copy of your. 

Rich Bennett 56:43
Oh, no, I'm in. Yeah, just standing there with you. 

Kayla Deickman 56:46
They do that? Yeah. They'll come and visit their books. Yeah. Yeah. It's a very, very big thing. And I would say book cons are also very like cult like following because, you know, we go and we bring empty suitcases, stock up on books, and we're going to get everything signed by anybody who's. Mm. 

Rich Bennett 57:05
You're stocking up on books. Absolutely. 

Kristie Wolf 57:08
I met a reader someplace. I was at a writers thing. Yeah, it wasn't. It was a big con. It was. I think it was like the right Women's Network book signing thing that they had. There was probably about 50 authors there and she met my the cover model on Too Dangerous To Love. His name is Betty Morella. She had met him at like that book type thing and had her picture taken with him and had her book, her book signed by him because he's been on multiple covers. 

Rich Bennett 57:36
And you say you're you're working on the third book now. 

Kristie Wolf 57:39
Second book, huh? I'm working on the second book. I'm working on my third book right now. My second book in the Project Viper series. 

Rich Bennett 57:47
Ones that do well. 

Kristie Wolf 57:48
I'm looking at December 4th is my my target date. 

Rich Bennett 57:51
December 4th. Okay. Which means you're going to have to come on a couple of months beforehand so we can make sure it goes out. So I don't want to ask anything about that one yet. 

Kristie Wolf 58:00
I want to I can tell you if you've read Too Dangerous to Love, it's Cain and Beth's story. Oh, and so Beth is the best friend of Scarlett from the first book, and Cain is one of the project Viper teammates. He is minus a leg. So he has weaponized prosthetic is his his leg could kill you with some lasers? 

Rich Bennett 58:17
PUPU Yeah. I mean, if you drop the first book off to a real life prosthetics. No, I haven't. You should you get a copy? Just drop. I think they're an Abby. Good. 

Kristie Wolf 58:29
That would be great. 

Rich Bennett 58:30
I think it'd be awesome. So the very important tell everybody website so they know where to go to get the poster. It's Christian merchandise. It's like cuffs and tote bags. 

Kristie Wolf 58:40
It's Christy Christ t i.e. wolf w0lf just like the animal. Christy Wolfcamp and on there you can go to my Facebook page, my Instagram, my TikTok, my new Tok shop. My books are available on Amazon. They're on Kindle, they're also on Kindle Unlimited. And you can also buy direct from my website. So if you want a signed copy, you can get them from my website or tick shop. And this morning I just signed up for my first Tik-Tok promotion, so. 

Kayla Deickman 59:09
Let me know how that goes. 

Kristie Wolf 59:10
So it's only been 2 hours, so we'll see. 

Kayla Deickman 59:14
Let me know how that go. 

Kristie Wolf 59:15
But they are offering a $3 coupon on my books and shipping is included on the Tock shop, so it's a pretty good deal. 

Kayla Deickman 59:24
Yeah, I know in the books if. 

Rich Bennett 59:27
You have anything to ask, so I'm afraid to ask it. Did you have anything for Christine or any other kind of dress up events? Go, 

Oh. 

Kayla Deickman 59:41
He he's dying in the corner. 

Rich Bennett 59:45
So I learned so much today. 

Kayla Deickman 59:48
I take it all in. 

Rich Bennett 59:49
I think I have a suit for you. I'm sorry. Go ahead. For your husband. 

Kayla Deickman 59:53
Turner. 

So are we going to expect still three three peppers for our next book? Are you are we going to. 

Kristie Wolf 1:00:03
Oh, no. 

Kayla Deickman 1:00:03
We're set up, so. 

Kristie Wolf 1:00:04
We're still at three peppers, maybe even a little spicier. I do see my writing going. Going spicier. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:12
Okay. 

Kristie Wolf 1:00:12
So we have out in December, we have two lethal to Love, which is second book in the Viper series. And then after that, I plan to finish a book, but I had about 75% done. 

Kayla Deickman 1:00:26
Okay. 

Kristie Wolf 1:00:26
And so I really, really love this book and I want to get it out there. So that'll be the first book in yet another series. And then I'll I'll write the second night. 

Kayla Deickman 1:00:37
So it's kind of hard, but we've got some time for the second. 

Kristie Wolf 1:00:40
Yeah, we've got some time sometime next year. Unless my mother, like I said, comes over and starts cooking dinner and cleaning my house and I can write faster. 

Kayla Deickman 1:00:47
Well, and then everybody just mark your calendars for the next Viper book. 

Kristie Wolf 1:00:52
Yep. December 4th. And it takes place at Christmas. So it's a. 

Kayla Deickman 1:00:55
Christmas. It'll be a great holiday. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:57
It'll be a great holiday book. So the next time you come on, I got to make sure that because I have a funny feeling both Kayla and, Wendy will be on the next one. So I'm going to have to get a guy in. Here goes. Well. 

Kayla Deickman 1:01:10
That might be your only saving grace. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:12
Yeah, I will. Yeah. I'll be, like, speechless and shocked. 

Kristie Wolf 1:01:15
Too many things I could bring my husband he'd have a lot to. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:19
So he would team with you. 

Kristie Wolf 1:01:20
So he wouldn't. Oh, he's a marine. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:23
Oh, okay. Well, yeah, he's. What? What do you say now? Okay, I'll go ahead. 

Kayla Deickman 1:01:29
I was going to say so I can definitely see kind of where your first book's inspiration kind of came from. The military Marines. 

Kristie Wolf 1:01:38
Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, my first book, Too Dangerous to Love. They're they're a military, you know, Department of Defense. They're all former while still in the military and they're all wounded veterans. And my dad is a 100% disabled Vietnam veteran. And so my character in the book has PTSD. I have grown up with my dad having PTSD. And so all of that, all of that that you will read in there or have read in there is that, you know, purely from personal experience and I you know, and and I really hope that I pulled off honoring veterans and and, you know, getting through that. I appreciate you know I appreciate our military because, you know, that's how I was raised. 

Kayla Deickman 1:02:24
So that means that essentially everybody is listening. You need to get to dangerous celeb and you need to get to the heart. I support amazing re it's and if anything I get it just to support a local author. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:42
Yes no go ahead. Yeah no keep cool you're doing good. 

Kayla Deickman 1:02:47
He's giving me some type of look, y'all, 

but make sure you get her books. They're really good. They're good burns. They're good steamy books, but they've got a really good story behind them and an amazing happily ever read. And that's all we want. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:03
But what should the listeners do after they read the books? 

Kayla Deickman 1:03:06
I mean, if they want to act them out, that's up to them. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:16
If you read the books, make sure you leave a full review. So don't leave any details about what you did. Wow. Or after reading the book, you know. 

Kristie Wolf 1:03:28
If you do want to leave details about what you did, I might inspire me for my next book. So feel free. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:35
To, you. 

Kristie Wolf 1:03:35
Know, send me an email. Tell me, tell me, send me notes. Tell me what you thought me. So let us see more of Christie. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:43
Kayla, thank you so much. It's been fun. Again, you've only been on twice and both times you've had me turn in blood red. 

Kristie Wolf 1:03:51
And everybody. Don't forget Kayla year and Kayla's children's books. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:56
Yeah, we were. 

Kayla Deickman 1:03:56
Not worried about that. Right now. 

Rich Bennett 1:03:58
There's been. 

Kayla Deickman 1:04:00
Yeah, I was going to say, God, we're all here for the romance. Write children's books and wait till the next podcast. 

Rich Bennett 1:04:09
Oh, God. Thank you. 

Kristie Wolf 1:04:11
So much. I have a ton of fun. I can't wait till next time. 

Rich Bennett 1:04:14
Oh, I'm scared of next time. Be.