Robert Sciglimpaglia's Journey from Attorney to Actor and Beyond

In this enlightening episode, sponsored by Four Seasons Landscape & Construction Services, Rich Bennett delves into the fascinating world of Robert Sciglimpaglia, a man whose career spans the realms of law, acting, voiceover artistry, and production. The episode kicks off with Robert sharing the origins of his career as an attorney, a choice influenced by his passion for public speaking and a brief flirtation with the idea of becoming a radio deejay. As Robert's journey unfolds, he recounts the pivotal moment when his legal career inadvertently opened the door to the entertainment industry, leading him to explore voiceovers and eventually acting.

Throughout the conversation, Robert offers invaluable insights
into the complexities of navigating legalities in the entertainment industry,
highlighting the significance of his book, "Voice Over Legal," as a
resource for professionals navigating this space. Rich and Robert also touch on
the evolution of music rights and the nuances of copyright law, providing
listeners with a deeper understanding of the challenges and opportunities
within the creative fields.

The episode takes a more personal turn as Robert shares his
experiences on set with icons like Al Pacino and Robert De Niro, and reminisces
about his memorable Super Bowl commercial. Additionally, Robert discusses the
intersection of his legal and acting careers, revealing how his skills as an
attorney have enriched his acting e

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Transcript

Rich Bennett 0:00
Thanks for joining the conversation, where we explore the stories and experiences that shape our world. I'm your host, Rich Bennett. And today, we're thrilled to welcome Robert Shiller Polya, an accomplished actor, attorney, producer and voiceover artist known for his versatile, career spanning television, film and theater. Not just a man of many talents on screen and stage. Robert is also the author of Voice over Legal A Must Read Guide for Navigating the Complex World of Business and Legalities in the voiceover Industry. So join us as we dive into this multifaceted career insights from his book and his remarkable journey in the entertainment world. How's it going, Robert? Robert or Rob or Bob? Rob Okay, yeah. So before we even get into the book or anything, I got to ask, which came first? The attorney. The actor what? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 0:57
The attorney Game first. Okay. Actually, 

I was always in the, you know, performing at things when I was younger, but I was always a little very shy. 

Rich Bennett 1:07
So I was kind the side of things. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 1:10
And so, you know, it took me a little while. You know, once I became a lawyer, I was going to court and speaking in front of the jury and judges that kind of got me out a little bit and wanted me to explore. Mr. Boies Yeah, I wish I have started with voiceovers first. So that's where I got broke into the to the entertainment field. So. 

Rich Bennett 1:32
So when you were in school, was that your dream to become an attorney? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 1:36
So when I was in school, actually, I was trying to decide whether I wanted to be a deejay, a radio deejay or an attorney. See? See? So I did. Internship with local radio station. And what they said, just like you said, Come on, you got to go to law school. Forget about this. Stuff. Oh, no. 

Rich Bennett 1:57
No, I. I would if I would do it that way, too, because that's what my degree is in radio. Okay, So what would. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 2:04
You have said? What would you have told me? About What if I was going to give that advice? 

Rich Bennett 2:09
If you wanted to get into radio. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 2:11
Radio or or become a lawyer? 

Rich Bennett 2:12
So the 

my biggest thing is and I tell everybody this because this the first thing they told me when I went to broadcast in school be prepare to be fired. And, you know, if you 

deejay, it's hard. I didn't I didn't like it. I like deejaying in the clubs better than I did radio. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 2:35
Yeah, I used to deejay. That's where I DJ for my college radio and a deejay. You know, he was a private deejay, so I. 

Rich Bennett 2:41
Would okay and stuff. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 2:43
But that's what the same thing they told me. They they're like, if you want a lot of job in security, go then become a deejay. Yeah. And they're like, You want to jail, You want job security degree and you become a lawyer. So. 

Rich Bennett 2:54
Well, and the thing is, because if you becoming an attorney, it led you to other paths as well, right? You probably wouldn't have gotten that as a deejay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 3:03
No, no. And I started I actually one of the things I started to do when I first became a lawyer was represent musicians. 

Rich Bennett 3:11
Oh, really? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 3:12
I started to learn about I started to learn about the entertainment field that way. Yeah. So I had I had a I had several bands. And so acts and singer songwriters that I represented back. All right. So I don't them I'd help them with copyrighting and you know, the ASCAP's BMI and all. Of. Those issues. Yeah. So contracts. 

Rich Bennett 3:32
Is, is ASCAP's and BMI still around or is it the other one now. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 3:36
See is the third but see SEC BMI okay. They're still the biggies. 

Rich Bennett 3:41
All right. Now, look, I don't know if you can answer this question or not, but this has been a pet peeve of mine. I got out of GE in October, October, we had our last wedding because nowadays if somebody has a cell phone, they think they're 

not too far off. I Yeah, well, I know as far as you know, your venues have to, I guess pay the music tax to ask at BMI and all that. Yep. Do you ever see and I guess well musicians do as well unless you're playing in that venue. Top musicians. Right. Or is that the. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 4:16
All the musicians get they get paid through ask okay. They have to pay their dues If they don't get publishing company that is part of ASCAP's BMI, then they would have to pay their dues. Okay, to stay in as you have a BMI, do. 

Rich Bennett 4:28
You think we will ever see the day? And I hope we do where mobile deejays have to. And when I say mobile, I'm not talking about the ones that are deejaying in clubs because the clubs are already paying it. Right. But ones that are doing weddings, private events and they're charging people. You ever think we'll see a day or two? No. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 4:48
I won't, because the venues are responsible for that, the venue. So wherever they go. So if the DJ goes to a venue that doesn't hasn't paid BMI or ASKAP, then they're supposed to pay it. 

Rich Bennett 4:59
It's the venue is theirs. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 5:01
Either the DJ has they have to make sure that the venue is paid it or they're going to they're going to have to you know, they may have to pay for it. 

Rich Bennett 5:07
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 5:08
The deejay. So the venue, the venues are responsible for that, though, wherever they're playing. Okay, wherever the DJ is setting up, they're supposed to, you know, So if it's a wedding venue, they're going to have. 

Rich Bennett 5:18
Paid well, yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 5:19
ASCAP, BMI, or. 

Rich Bennett 5:20
What if it's a private residence or not? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 5:23
No, but you don't have the private residence. You don't have to. 

Rich Bennett 5:27
Well, yeah, that's true. Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 5:29
You don't have to pay. It's not public, so it's private residence. You go in, you deejay, and it's not, you know, that's that's You can't police that, right? 

Rich Bennett 5:39
See a bunch of a bunch of us, bunch of deejays. We've been trying to push for that. And you know what? We haven't been able to get anything done in the past 30 years. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 5:47
Well, imagine if. You know, you're playing a private residence as a deejay and ask everybody am I comes knocking. At the door? 

Rich Bennett 5:54
Well, yeah, Like that's what they do. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 5:55
That's what they do with them in the public venues. They'll come. 

Rich Bennett 5:58
Oh, I. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 5:58
Know, you know, But then, I mean, come on, think about that. How are they going to do that? 

Rich Bennett 6:02
Yeah, that's true. All right, Never mind. I lost that. I lost that. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 6:05
One. Well, that's what. That's the reason why it's okay. It's too hard to police it. 

Rich Bennett 6:11
Yeah, they would have to hire a lot more people. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 6:13
Well, wow. I mean, even if. Even if the deejay is in some house as Captain BMI is not going to come knocking on the door, you know, what are they going to do? The homeowner said, get the hell out of here. I don't care. I know this is a one time party. I'm not going to pay ASCAP's BMI fees. You know, for one time I have a party. 

Rich Bennett 6:30
My house. All right. I'm giving if I. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 6:32
Play live, I play the radio myself. Right? You just play on the radio. 

Rich Bennett 6:35
Well, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. But I think the thing that irks me is cause you see, deejays are still charging these people, so they're getting paid to play the music, right? And some of them will stream it, which to me is completely wrong because they they pay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 6:51
For their services, they're paying for the DJ services, their time, you know. 

Rich Bennett 6:55
Good thing you became an attorney. 

So that from an attorney to voice actor, voiceover acting. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 7:03
I'm still an attorney. So. 

Rich Bennett 7:05
Well, yeah, okay. It's good. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 7:06
But it's it's combined now. 

Rich Bennett 7:08
Yeah, but you as you when you were an attorney, you became, you started doing voiceover. How did that come about? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 7:15
But I just. I was working 40 hours or 60 hours a week, 40 to 60 hours a week at a firm that I was working for about ten years as an attorney. And I still had that little burning of being and wanting to be a deejay. It'd be so. You know, I would frequently take adult education classes, right? You know, I still do, you know, just for whatever summer, whatever, what catches my eye. I want to go take an adult. ED So I saw a class for voiceover, introductory voiceover, and I didn't really know what it was. I thought it was just cartoon voices, so I thought it'd be. 

Rich Bennett 7:53
Fun, like Mel Blanc or something. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 7:55
Right? So then I signed up for it and I realized, Hey, this is actual profession. This is stuff I can do. This is like me. I can, I can do this. So, you know, you need the gear and stuff. And I was like, Oh, I already have most of that gear, right? I need this. So I decided to pursue it, you know? And then I took more classes and I got my demo cut and then I the first gig I booked was Free PBS's American Experience. Really? Experiences? Yeah. I did a dub on an episode where that Campbell Scott was the narrator. Okay, I've done a couple of foreign dubs, you know, turned them into English. 

Rich Bennett 8:31
Mm. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 8:32
So that that was my first gig. 

Rich Bennett 8:33
That's got to be fun. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 8:35
It was, yeah, it was great. It was a Broadway sound, you know? Yeah. Saturday Night Live's. That's their sound studio. They're right on 30 Rock. 

Rich Bennett 8:42
That's it. You're still doing the voiceover? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 8:45
I still do voiceover. 

Rich Bennett 8:46
Yeah, right. So with all the voiceover work you've done, what's got to be one of your most favorites? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 8:53
Well, that definitely was one of my favorites. 

Rich Bennett 8:55
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 8:56
That was great. 

Rich Bennett 8:57
Yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 8:59
Well, let's see my other favorite jobs. 

I was the voice of Arco Tesoro Fuel for a long time. Okay, That was that was a great gig. I love that gig. Wow. I did all the radio radio spots. So I have to say, that was probably my other favorite one that I did. 

Rich Bennett 9:20
All right. So for those listeners that want to get into voiceover now, of course, you say you took a course in it, 

but is there any other, I don't know, techniques or practice that you still have to do afterwards? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 9:39
Sure. Yeah. I mean, so. 

Rich Bennett 9:40
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 9:41
So voiceover is the difference between deejaying and voiceover is, is acting. 

Rich Bennett 9:48
Mhm. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 9:49
So that's the reason why I'm an on camera actor to. 

Rich Bennett 9:52
Write. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 9:52
Is because I started taking acting classes to improve my voiceovers. But then I actually started doing on camera work and I did a Super Bowl commercial. So that's, that's definitely my all time favorite, the camera that I ever did. Yes, the commercials. Yeah. So, but I mean, you have to as a voice artist if you as you're it's not just ripping and reading like you do for radio. Yes. Rip and read. And I said, no, you have to. It's more acting. It's more it's the acting is emotional connection. Okay. So if you're connecting to the audience emotionally so that that's what an actor does, that's what a voiceover artist does. That's what a lawyer. So. You know, it's something that I, it goes through a way all my all my professions. It's making a connection and trying to convince persuade people to do take an action like, That's right. That's my life. Like, that's lawyer acting. VOICEOVER Yes, that's what I. 

Rich Bennett 10:45
Do. That's something I would love, love to try. You're this well, the third person I've met that does voiceover young lady who I had on my show, Carrie Ferris friend of mine that I used to, he worked at the last radio station. I worked at John Klug. Well, now, you know, but it's good. You're I'm wondering if they know about the book because after glancing through it, it's like, Oh, crap, there's a lot of information in here that's very important. Yeah. So what actually inspired you to write VOICEOVER Legal and how do you think it fills the gap in the industry's available resources? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 11:31
So the story behind that is when I started doing voiceover and people found out I was a lawyer, they would always ask me legal questions, Oh, should I start up an LLC? Oh, what should I do with my taxes? You know, all these kind of questions. So what I did was I wrote them down. I wrote other questions that I would get, and that's how the book was born. So like, each chapter in the book is, you know, a common question that I would get, you know, how do I get an agent? You know, all those questions you see in the book. 

And the reason why it fills the gap is because I knew there was a need for it, because I kept getting this those questions over and over again. So I was like, I'm going to write a book about this like this. I keep getting questions from you over from Talent about this stuff. So I'm like, Why don't I just write a book? So it was hit number one on Amazon, right, from the entertainment law category. And it's it's always in the top ten. And I'm actually working on the memoir up there a third of the way through the second edition. 

Rich Bennett 12:33
Oh, really? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 12:34
And so it's it's still always it's like I'm a consistent success on the book every year because it's still, you know. 

Rich Bennett 12:43
Still relevant. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 12:44
They want to, you know, they I mean, most of it is relevant. Yeah. Yeah. The things that I'm changing I know when I started writing the book, Sagen after I was still separate, so they merged, so. Oh, okay. But I'm working on that. And, you know, I had a big thing that. 

Rich Bennett 12:59
I was going to say, Well. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 13:01
I'm going to write something about that. But, you know, the majority of the book is still it's still still apply, still relevant. 

Rich Bennett 13:07
So when did this when was this released? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 13:11
2012. I really. 

Rich Bennett 13:13
Really. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 13:13
Yeah, it's been out a while. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 13:15
Wow. Okay. I didn't realize it. So when's the second one? The second one's coming out. Any idea on that yet? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 13:22
I'm trying to get it out for voiceover Atlanta, which is in March, so it's almost. It's almost done. 

Rich Bennett 13:27
Wait a minute. Voice over Atlanta. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 13:30
VOICEOVER Atlanta. There's those, there's conferences. There's voiceover conferences that, that they're, that they have and. VOICEOVER Atlanta. Is that the biggest? That's the biggest one. 

Rich Bennett 13:39
It's a fricking conference for everything, is it? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 13:41
There was. There was. I have a lot of conferences, too many. Conferences. 

Rich Bennett 13:47
So do you have to be doing voiceover work too, to go to them or can anybody attend? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 13:52
No, no, no. This certain conferences are, you know, like they're they're more conventions like a lawyer would go to. So they're more, you know, for the working bro. But most of them, they're they are for anybody. They're for, you know, people that want to get in the business and they want to you know, it's a great place to go and and take different classes from different coaches and things. So you can see if it's something that you like, You know, if you want to train with somebody afterwards, you get a big sample of, you know, of of what's out there when teachers are out there. 

Rich Bennett 14:22
So I might have to I might have to do that. Go to one of these. You mentioned they're. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 14:29
Fun, too. I mean. Oh, I think they're fun. 

Rich Bennett 14:31
I saw I haven't made it to the podcast ones yet, but yeah, yes, the podcast. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 14:34
Well, that just I just finished. 

Rich Bennett 14:36
Yeah, part was a part podcast expo. I think it was. Yes. Yes. I didn't make it again. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 14:41
Oh yeah. 

Rich Bennett 14:43
You mentioned the types of businesses. So if somebody wants to get into voiceover acting 

because I know a lot of people will do the LLC. The S what about those that they're just using their own name? Is it okay to, to do a doing business? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 15:00
Guess Yes, it's okay. 

Rich Bennett 15:02
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 15:03
But most people that are doing voiceover are doing something else on the job. They, you know, they are, they're retired and they've got a whole bunch of. 

Rich Bennett 15:11
Assets, right? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 15:12
So that's why I always recommend that they set up an LLC so that their personal assets are not at risk. If anything were to happen. Okay, so. Now. Anyone wanted to sue them for whatever reason. And you know, how in our society is. 

Rich Bennett 15:26
Everybody is. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 15:27
Just put in the LLC and then, you know, you're not going have to worry about losing. You're getting your wages garnished or, you know, losing any of your personal, personal assets. So that's the advantage of doing the LLC versus the sole proprietor. 

Rich Bennett 15:39
Okay. It's something else you mentioned in the book, and when I saw this, I was floored. I was like, Oh, because my first thought is I hear a lot of radio stations do this to promote, to station, but I'm wondering if it's okay for them to do that. Celebrity impersonations. 

Give us a little bit of background on that, what you wrote in the book, because I do. I you know, you hear 

stations, you know, act like somebody. And yeah, we always listen to so-and-so so you should. Right. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 16:14
So celebrity impersonations if they are a parody. 

Rich Bennett 16:18
Mm hmm. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 16:18
Those are protected by the First Amendment. So like Saturday Night Live, they they do celebrity impersonations all the time. But it's a joke. And we all know that It's a joke. That's a parody. 

Rich Bennett 16:29
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 16:29
Those are those are legal. So the ones that the radio stations are doing legal. The problem is there are celebrity impersonators out there that sound so much like the celebrity. 

Rich Bennett 16:40
Yes. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 16:41
If they're trying to pass themselves off as the celebrity, you know, for like a commercial and 

Bette Midler is the one that created the case way back when. Oh, it's Ford, because Ford tried to get Bette Midler to do a commercial sing. And she said no. And they got a soundalike And they it sounded just like her real sued them because that is celebrity impersonating. And that's that's that's what's illegal. You can't you can't try to pass off that that voice impersonating voice as the the actual person. 

Rich Bennett 17:18
So. Oh, wow. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 17:20
That's illegal. 

Rich Bennett 17:21
Okay, Now what about because there you have a like you can record something in the air and change it to a celebrity's voice. Yep. Same thing because it's originally your voice. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 17:31
There's actually Did you hear about the George Carlin case? It just. 

Rich Bennett 17:35
Did. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 17:35
A couple of days ago now. 

Rich Bennett 17:37
So I love George Carlin. Right? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 17:39
So there's these couple of producers that sampled all of George Carlin's material on the Internet and created a documentary on YouTube that was chart, you know, on YouTube plus or whatever it was. 

Rich Bennett 17:55
That's right. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 17:56
And they they created a whole new routine from today. No way user today. So George Carlin's family sued because they're saying that's illegal use of Carlin's likeness. So and that's going to be a new test because normally when you have to be alive to bring the case that they're you're using my likeness, though. So the family's now suing, saying that they're using the deceased person's likeness. So we're going to see what the courts go with this one. What. 

Rich Bennett 18:24
So his estate can't do that right now. The estate. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 18:27
Sued, but, you know, the person's not alive. 

Rich Bennett 18:30
Anymore, right? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 18:31
So they can't technically say that they're using the person's likeness because they're not they're out, they're not living anymore. So there actually was a statute that was just proposed, the air fraud statute that's making its way through the legislature. And it would prevent it would it would give rights for a clone voices, you know, to sue. And for a situation like this where it's the family. So hopefully that gets finished. It's it's making its way through the system. I think if it passed the House, I think, or the Senate, I can't remember. It's on trial. 

Rich Bennett 19:07
So I need to start watching the news again. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 19:09
Do not 

I just want I just like stuff that comes up through on social media, on my phone. 

Rich Bennett 19:17
I'm the same way because it's like every time you turn on the news, all this is this negative crap. It's like, I don't need to watch it. So can you actually share a particularly challenging legal situation you've faced in your career and how it influenced the section of your book? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 19:35
Um, well, all this, all, every section of my book, I've, I faced. 

Rich Bennett 19:39
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 19:41
Yeah. I've had people that don't have LLC, right? They get sued. I've had people that are celebrity impersonators get sued. Wow. But the biggest the biggest case that had the biggest impact so far involved I so I represented Bev standing. Beverley standing who was a voice actor. Yeah that of Canada and she was the original text to speech voice and tic tac. Remember the first tic tac tec text to speech voice that they had. 

Rich Bennett 20:12
Know. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 20:13
Like when you create a video you could pick a voice and it would speak because. 

Rich Bennett 20:16
She. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 20:17
Was the original one. Oh, they were using her voice without her permission. So we sued them and ended up settling the case, which was great. But that's the one that had pretty much the biggest impact so far. I mean, right here and I have a few of I have a few more that I'm working on now to I guess other companies, right, where people's voices are being used without their permission, it's either AI or because, you know, they're they use the audition without their permission or whatever. 

Rich Bennett 20:46
Yeah. Good luck with everything you're doing, How many hours you work in a week? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 20:51
Too many. Yeah. Good thing I love everything I do. Like, that's the reason. 

Rich Bennett 20:57
Why there is. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 20:57
One big difference. Yeah, it does make a huge difference. So when I'm doing voiceovers or acting, it doesn't really feel like I'm working, right? 

Rich Bennett 21:04
So that's one. One of the biggest things my father always told me. He said, if if you're not having fun with your job, with your career, it's time to find something new. Yes. Because that's mostly the stress go up. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 21:19
Exactly. Most of the time. I enjoy practicing law, too. Yeah, most of the time. But there's certain periods of time. I'm like, Oh, why did I like that? Why wasn't I do 

well? 

Rich Bennett 21:31
Because you didn't want to get fired. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 21:33
Exactly. Thank God. Because, you. Know, it's the reason why I practicing law so hard is because you're dealing a lot of times with almost all the time with a very stressful situation that your clients deal with. So, you know, you you have to also kind of be part psychologist. Yeah, part counselor. You know, that's why they call you a counselor, because you are really dealing with clients as well. And you know, the stress that they're going through and trying to try and explain that this is the way that the law works and it might not necessarily align with the way that you think it was fair or not fair. So like that, that's where it conflicts, you know what I mean? Like, people have ideas of what should happen, but that's not necessarily what does happen because the law is different. So. 

Rich Bennett 22:21
All right. So with you being an actor and an attorney, do you ever watch some of these law shows and just sit there and shake your head? Oh, what the hell are they talking about? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 22:34
Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm I'm a people's court judge, jury junkie. So big time. I watch them. All the time. My life goes crazy. So, like, Charlie, shut up. And I watch this. 

Rich Bennett 22:48
God, I didn't realize she was still around. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 22:52
Well, it's. I watch the reruns now, but she's on TV now. She's on the Free TV channel. It's a different court. Something different. 

Rich Bennett 23:01
Free, Free V free. Free. Yeah. You got a. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 23:04
Free view preview. But her show's not called Judge Judy, but it's called something else. But it's still her. Okay. And she also does 

Hot Bench. She's the executive producer of Hot Bench, where it's three, three judges. And then they will hear the case and then they they have the sit down and say, oh, this is what the law is and this would have happened. And then they come up with a decision. And it's fascinating. 

Rich Bennett 23:28
It's like American Idol goes to court or something. It's it's it's. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 23:33
More it's so it's like it's like People's Court, but it's more like appellate. 

Rich Bennett 23:39
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 23:39
You know, because that's what the appellate court does. Okay. Okay. You have multiple you have two a panel. And then they hear the facts, they hear the arguments, and then they deliberate and then they write a decision so that that's it's it's combines like people's court, small claims court with the appellate court process. 

Rich Bennett 23:57
So it's called hot bench topic. I might have to check it check that one out now. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 24:02
It's good I like it. They have more sophisticated, you know, not sophisticated, but more advanced issues sometimes that come on. 

Rich Bennett 24:10
So I used to watch that stuff all, especially the old People's Court with who was it? Ed Koch. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 24:17
Well, it was. 

Rich Bennett 24:18
It was he was like, was it. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 24:20
Ed Koch Just kind of the middle. Judge Wapner was the wrong nerd. 

Rich Bennett 24:22
That's right. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 24:23
And that's how I actually one of the reasons that's one of the things that influenced me to want to become an attorney, okay, was when I started, I was watching Wapner and I was a kid. 

Rich Bennett 24:32
So every time I every time I hear his name, alls I can think of is Rain Man. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 24:38
Yeah, Flop. Yes, exactly. Exactly, exactly. Well, that's a huge People's Court. Well, to go. Got the Rain Man. 

Rich Bennett 24:48
Oh, God, I love that movie with the book. What's one piece of advice that you wish every aspiring voiceover artists should know? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 25:01
VOICEOVER artists. So my book deals with legal issues, but many of the legal issues are how how is the business issues there around the business of voiceover, Right? So legal and business are kind of they're kind of bundled together. It's hard to pull them apart, you know, separate them. So the one thing that that I would love voiceover artists to do besides just learning the craft, learning how to voiceover is learn about the business side because many voiceover talent jump in, jump in on the, you know, on the artist side, get hired and then they're lost or they don't know where to go, Where do I go to get work? Yeah, And if you learn about the business end, it's going to help you learn where to go to look for work. 

Rich Bennett 25:51
Or even start your own business. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 25:52
Well, start your own businesses. That's what I'm saying, that, okay, they start their own voiceover business, but they really don't know anything about business. So they should learn. They should learn it. Take a course on business management. While you're taking your courses on learning about voiceover, take a course on business management and you'll, you'll what I see a common thing I see is that 

you're starting your own business when you start voiceover right? So people that are entrepreneurial and already have businesses, they're they're much more likely to succeed in voiceover and be able to deal with all the frustrations I dealt with it versus people that are, that have never run a business before. And they're, you know, maybe they're just coming out of a job and then now they have to become an entrepreneur and, you know, come up with with clients and what you what you kill, you know. Yeah. So like it's it's a whole new mindset. So learning about that along with learning about how to do techniques of voiceover and that I think is what it's going to would help every single talent. And it doesn't matter what art they're in, write music, 

acting, voiceovers. Painting, photography, deejaying and any of them. Any of them. 

Rich Bennett 27:15
So 

one of these days you're going to get back, you're going to get out there. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 27:20
DJR You Well, I kind of do. 

Rich Bennett 27:23
Okay, good lord. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 27:24
Rob So like. It, but I do it for family stuff, you know? Okay, I've got my I've got my big I still have my big speakers and they're their Bluetooth now, which is great. Yeah. And then I, like you said, I have my phones, I just use my phone on my iPad and I like it. 

Rich Bennett 27:40
So it's funny because when I started deejaying and now I'm sure my age and I started back in 1986 hauling the crates of records, the turntables, all that stuff, and then CDs came out. One of my deejays said, Oh, you got to check this ACA. It's a fad. It ain't going to last. Yep. And then everything went digital as art. Nope. I know how computers are. It'll crash. Best move I ever made was digital. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 28:07
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 28:08
Yeah. Oh, my God. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 28:09
I mean, a lot of. A lot of. 

Not a lot, but some deejays are going throwback to use the vinyl now because vinyl has become has come out again. 

Rich Bennett 28:19
Oh yeah. Well I've always said this when if you have a good sound system not just for deejaying but at home, a good sound system with a good turntable, there is no sound better than what comes off of vinyl. The grease in the music you can't get, you can't beat. It can't be. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 28:38
It's got a certain warmth to it that you can't reproduce digitally. 

Rich Bennett 28:42
So kids today now are I mean, they're buying. Of course, vinyl today cost a lot more than. Yes, I think, what, $24 for an album to start. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 28:53
Yeah, exactly. They start. 

Rich Bennett 28:55
To use. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 28:56
Alex. It's like, what the hell? Oh. 

Rich Bennett 29:00
Reflecting on your acting career, is there besides the commercial, besides the Camaro, is there a role that stands out as particularly transformative for you and why? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 29:14
So there's a couple. 

Rich Bennett 29:15
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 29:16
One, I played an agoraphobic. 

Rich Bennett 29:19
A white. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 29:19
Agoraphobic. What does it do? They're afraid. Afraid to leave their house. That's a car phobia. See? So there you go. There you go. Okay. That's why it was just for me. Yeah, because I'm not agoraphobic, but, you know, I had to. I studied, I researched it and studied the disease a long time before I was able to to do it. And I was the lead. So I was. It was basically me in my house, like the. So those are the hardest roles to play. 

Rich Bennett 29:47
Right? What was the name of that? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 29:52
Homesick. It was called Homesick. Okay. And it was other aspects to it too, right? Like my wife had passed away and I was letting anybody know that my wife passed away and my daughter was getting married and I wouldn't leave the house to go to the wedding and, wow, make friends with the postman. You know, It was it was a great story. 

Rich Bennett 30:10
Yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 30:11
But the reason why I say it was transformative. Well, first of all, it taught me how to really research a role where you don't know, you know you. 

Rich Bennett 30:20
Yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 30:20
If you're not well, you're not living that or you have no experience in that in your life. You're researching that. That's a whole new dimension to acting. And I got a couple of reviews. I remember when it when we posted it up online from actual agoraphobic and like, you did a great job and, you know, I'm agoraphobic and you know that that's wow, that's what it's like. So that really made me feel good that I was able to capture and do just do justice to the role. And another one I did where I played a father, which was a little easier for me because I am a father, right? 

And it was called Bathtub Chronicles. That was the name of the film. And the the film was about my daughter, my onscreen daughter who comes out of a mental institution because she was having issues. So we put her in. She was trying to kill herself. We put her into a mental institution. She comes out and she takes over the parents master bath, but just sits there and won't go out, you know, won't come out for days, days and days and days. And then, you know, like the end scene is when I'm with her and we're reminiscing about when she was a kid and why. That was another very it was a very emotional role for me and it made me think of my own kids. 

Rich Bennett 31:47
Right. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 31:48
So that that was another transformative role. You mean. 

Rich Bennett 31:52
Bathtub Chronicles? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 31:53
Bathtub Chronicles. It's on prime. You can find it on prime. 

Rich Bennett 31:57
I go, Yeah, because when you mention mental health, which is, well, something we talk about a lot but I. Oh, yeah, I'm definitely going to have to watch that one. So as a producer. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 32:10
Yes, I produce that one too. Best Oh, you did? 

Rich Bennett 32:12
Okay. So what do you look for in projects or talent when you're ready to produce something? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 32:19
It depends, because it depends on what level of production I'm doing, because sometimes I'll just maybe do some of the legal work. 

Rich Bennett 32:26
Okay? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 32:27
They'll give me production talent or I'll just be involved in the business side and and I'm not involved on the creative side. So if I'm involved on the creative side, then 

I'm looking for I'm looking for well-grounded talent. I'm looking for talent, not ness. I mean, if they have a name, any kind of name, obviously, that's going to help the project. 

Rich Bennett 32:50
Right? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 32:50
So if I can find some, you know, some names that fit within the budget, that that's a coup. That that's that's the ultimate budget. 

Rich Bennett 32:57
Is always the key thing to. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 32:58
Write the budget. So sometimes you can get you maybe to get someone with a name that's willing to work for a minimum, which is great, you know, because they like the project. And normally that's word of mouth stuff. You know, it's people, right? Somebody knows to get them involved. But I want I, I always I pride myself on getting good acting good acting involved, you know, not just hiring friends or hiring, you know, all the the investors kid wants to be the lead, you know, okay, maybe maybe I wouldn't say no, but they got to be a good actor, you know, always. If they're not a good actor, if they're not convincing, then I'm going market. 

Rich Bennett 33:39
It could kill the project. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 33:41
Right? I won't do the project because I don't want to put my name. I don't want to put my name on it. Right. It's unless it's my best work. So. 

Rich Bennett 33:48
Yeah. Wow. So actually, can you share an experience where you're acting and the legal careers intersect in an unexpected way? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 33:57
Well, it happens all the time. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if it's unexpected, but, like, I'm always called in to play a lawyer. I've done that. Many, many, many, many times. 

Rich Bennett 34:07
I'm so very good at that role. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 34:08
And not only am I lawyer, I play one on TV. So, like. Like that happens a lot. So but I use my acting skills all the time in court because like I said, the essence of acting is connecting. It's connecting. So you have like if lawyers that do this, you know, when they if you ever see lawyers that do this show, closing arguments first. 

Rich Bennett 34:30
Yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 34:30
My client my client is innocent because my client is the best guy in the world. And, you know, like you can't read off papers. You got to like, you got to look this guy, he's had a rough life. You know, you have to understand this guy. You know, he is his dad beat him up. His mom left him. He was out on his own when he was 16. You know what I mean? You got to you got to tell the story. You got to make the connection with with the jury and the judge. Yeah. Because if they're not, do you have to get them vested into your your clients? So it's the same thing with you're acting, you're trying you're getting you're getting the audience to forget about all the realities and put all that aside and, you know, and get them to get into the character, get into the story and, you know, make a connection with that character. Because after all, the character is not real, right? It's not a real it's not a real person. It's somebody. That's you're. Portraying. It's fake. Fake 100%. But you need to show that it is real. Yeah, right. So that's how they that's how they really. 

Rich Bennett 35:34
I never thought about that with being an attorney and the acting together, you know, in court and everything. It now makes sense. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 35:41
In fact, I teach a course the CBA, the Connecticut Bar Association for other attorneys is called acting. The lawyer. So what we do is I give out monologues, I pick monologues for the attorneys that sign up, and then I have them go up and perform them. And ideally, I want them to memorize it, right. So and I want them to see the difference between when they memorize it and read it, how it is. 

Rich Bennett 36:06
All right. Wow. All right. Now I want to become an attorney. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 36:12
Well, that's what I said, Attorney. Most of the time. It's most of the time it's enjoyable for me. You know, it's just the stress that's involved that because it's real, like that's real. It's not like that's that part of it is different from acting where acting is all fake and law is all real, like 100% real life. So yeah, like that part of it is the part that can get stressful sometimes when you deal with the, you know, the clients and their feelings and trying to explain to them about their cases and the system. 

Rich Bennett 36:43
Now you only practice in Connecticut, right? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 36:46
And New York. 

Rich Bennett 36:47
Then New York. Okay. Yes. Yeah. I wonder if there's a lot of actors in New York. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 36:55
There's not as many as L.A.. Yeah, yeah, 

yeah. 

Rich Bennett 37:00
Oh, God. So if somebody because more changes are if if they want to get into acting, they're going to go to L.A. or New York. One of the. Yeah, they're right. So if they need your practices and if they want to get your book and if they want to look at your other work, because I know you got, what, two or three websites. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 37:20
I've got one. Yeah, I got one for law and I've got one for acting. 

Rich Bennett 37:23
Okay. What are these websites? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 37:25
So by law, what is Rob Sig? Oral-B. Skg. Yes. Cue dot com. Okay. My acting one is Rob Paglia Dotcom. That's my my stage name's Paglia, Rob Bagby. And I. 

Rich Bennett 37:38
Come here, Come here. Use your full last name on Yelp. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 37:42
Well, I. Well, because I don't know. Why do you think you spell it, Rich? If you could type that you. Can type in significant the dot com and it won't. Take too long. My wife and I lost it because I have the I have name, but nobody does that so. 

Rich Bennett 38:00
Oh God. So so with your acting career, is there favorite role that you liked besides that? I got to meet that commercial. Yeah. Every time I see it, I just laugh my ass off. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 38:14
That was the commercial was absolutely the best. The best, the best. But I'm an acting. I've been lucky because I've been in I've done background in smaller parts on the bigger films. 

Rich Bennett 38:26
Sometimes I would say they're the most fun. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 38:28
Yeah, So I did. I did like for instance, I did The Irishman. So I got into a scene with DeNiro and Pacino, my two of my heroes. Right? So I was able to, you know, right there watching. 

Rich Bennett 38:43
Yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 38:43
Of work. So that that's fun. One time I got hired on 30 Rock to skate on Rockefeller Center. That was absolutely fun. So I got paid to skate around. 

Rich Bennett 38:54
I want to filibuster my ass. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 38:57
Well, I know how to skate, so that's good. I've always wanted to skate there, and it's really hard to get on the ice. The fact that I got. Paid to skate on the ice. 

Rich Bennett 39:05
I almost. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 39:05
Almost killed Alec Baldwin that day to. Watch was still it. Was killed. Alec. Well, there's a story, so, you know, like I was skating around, they told us to skate around to warm up. 

Rich Bennett 39:15
Right? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 39:16
Right. So we're skating around and we're like, okay, come off the ice. So there was only one little gate. 

Rich Bennett 39:23
Okay, come. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 39:23
Off, you know, get out of. So I skate over there. I grabbed the walls like jump over and boom, your head right. There. Oh, God. I snapped right before I. Walked back into him. Oh, Jesus. And he's like, Oh, excuse me. And I was like, Oh, excuse me. 

Rich Bennett 39:42
Hey, good thing it wasn't the other way. You would have knocked him back on the ice. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 39:46
Exactly. Exactly. I did not. I didn't hit him. I stopped. I was able to stop like I jumped over. But it was it was close. So I was like, right, like, right there it was. Right, Right. Yeah. Faced those the no. So guy. 

Rich Bennett 39:59
So when it comes to acting and producing, do you have any upcoming projects you can talk about? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 40:04
Sure. Yeah. I mean I have two that are in post-production. One is called 

What's the name of that scene? I'm blanking. Out. 

Rich Bennett 40:15
Hey, Hey, Rob. That's why I read this. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 40:18
I know Phibsborough Road. That's one of them. It's a slasher film. Oh, I play the sheriff and I got killed. Spoiler alert. I always wanted. To be in a slasher movie that I got killed. Did. So. 

Rich Bennett 40:32
For those of you listening, he's he's Robert is hands with every day. He's looking all excited. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 40:38
Well, I mean that 

there's a lot of actors that want to get killed The slasher films out there like learning one of your dreams is to get killed in a slasher film or be in a shark film. That was in Sharknado. 

Rich Bennett 40:49
Sharknado? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 40:50
Oh, God. I was in Sharknado. 

Rich Bennett 40:52
So how many of them are there? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 40:54
There was five, I think I was in the Southland. Okay, So yeah, I'm buddies with Ian Ziering, so he. 

Rich Bennett 41:02
Oh. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 41:03
I heard you were that I wrote a scene together. It was great. And then the other one is with Kevin Sorbo. 

Rich Bennett 41:12
That's Hercules. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 41:14
Hercules? Yeah. That's another life. That one's called. That one's in post two. Okay, Those two are coming out now. Then I'm working on several projects, you know, upcoming projects, right. That are in pre-production. So those two are in post. They're going to be out soon. 

Rich Bennett 41:32
Okay. Is there anybody that you've always wanted to work with that you haven't got the opportunity yet? And I say yet, 

Good question. Cause they would have to be living so well. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 41:44
Of course, of course. To have or not worked with that. I want to. That's a good question. 

It's hard to say. It's hard to say because I mean, if you name. 

Rich Bennett 41:59
Someone out there. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 42:00
Yeah, name somebody. I've I've worked with many of them. A lot of them. So a lot of the big ones. 

Rich Bennett 42:08
All right. Let's make it easier to add or even past. That's no longer. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 42:12
Well, name names. Somebody name somebody that names someone that's popular now, Pop. 

Rich Bennett 42:17
Popular now. Oh, God. 

Tell you what's the name? Samoa. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 42:24
Yeah. Okay. There you go. Yeah. Never worked with him. I loved that. 

Rich Bennett 42:27
Were there. I was just going to say Dwayne the Rock Johnson. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 42:30
I've never worked with him, so I would love to work with him. 

Rich Bennett 42:33
I made that Tom Cruise. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 42:35
I've never worked Tom. 

Rich Bennett 42:35
Cruise, okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 42:37
Dustin Hoffman. I never worked with him. So there's a couple there's a couple. 

Rich Bennett 42:41
That Ross got his hands in everything now. Yeah. Good Lord, I don't even know how he does it. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 42:47
Yeah, well, it's the entrepreneur's pure experience, what I'm talking about. Like, once, once you're in, once you can once you know how to run a business, then you can, you can run. 

Rich Bennett 42:56
Many are careful. He may want you to work with him in the wrestling ring. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 43:02
That's right. He can throw me around a little. Jealous, actually. 

Rich Bennett 43:06
So looking forward, have you see the landscape of voiceover and acting evolving and what legal challenges might professionals face? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 43:17
Well, artificial intelligence is definitely going could and is affecting the landscape of acting in voiceovers. There are cloned voices that are being used now. So that's probably going to take away some of the smaller and jobs, the lower end jobs. 

And then it's being used in the big films, too. You know, like Darth Vader was all recreated, Val Kilmer, they were all recreated in Top Gun and Star Wars. Oh, wow. So the whole strike was about I. 

Rich Bennett 43:53
Oh, I didn't know. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 43:54
It was streaming. Yes. But it was really, really one of the things was A.I. that was the Bane at the core of it. And that's why it hung around so long, because the producers didn't want to give on the on the air issue. Because what happened, what led up to that was and this happened to a couple of my friends in New York City, there was a TV production that had hired a bunch of background actors, and they called them in on the first day and they took all these pictures of them, you know, 360 degree pictures and film. And then like, okay, you're done. And they were going to use those pictures and recreate them artificially for the whole series. 

Rich Bennett 44:37
Whoa. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 44:39
So you didn't find out about it and put a stop to it, too? Nope, that's not happening. So that's that's what the strike was about. How to prevent producers from you know, using just taking one day worth of of pictures and using them for forever. So that's what, you know, that's covered in the contract. So they're allowed to do that for that whatever production you're hired for. 

Rich Bennett 45:03
Okay. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 45:04
So if you're hired to do like a day, a background and they want to use your image for that one episode, right, that's fine. They can even upgrade you. They can have you say in a line that you never said, Right. And they know they have to pay you, though, for you know, they have to pay you the upgrade and then you can negotiate if they want to use your you like this for future projects or other projects, they they can they have to negotiate with you. You have to sign a release for that to happen. So that's that's that's in the final version of the contract that was out where it was resolved. But that didn't say you can't use AI. 

Rich Bennett 45:40
Right? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 45:40
So right. So it's being used. 

Rich Bennett 45:44
I didn't realize that. I just had somebody on not too long ago. We are talking about A.I. and that's what his expertise is. And I know it's been around for a while, but I didn't realize it's been around since the sixties. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 45:58
Well It's been around since the sixties. And think about it. You know, the first Magellan's used to have gypsies. That was the beginning of AI. And then it kind of evolved quickly that quickly. But like since 28, around that period, that was when they started, you know, like the Bixby voice for Samsung that was AI directed those sessions. 

Rich Bennett 46:21
Got it on my phone here. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 46:23
Yeah, because I directed those sessions. Oh. ACTOR So that was so what they would do is they bring the talent in for months it's read a whole bunch of random stuff, different emotions and that's how Bixby was created. But now it's evolved to you only need 60 seconds, 60 seconds. You can do it right on your phone, your phone, talking to it, and, you know, create a song or, you know, cover a song or go put text in, have it speak. You only need 60 seconds from a sample to to create a clone. 

Rich Bennett 46:53
So it's it's scary in a way, but also in a way I think it helps a lot of people. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 47:03
I mean, that's like anything, it's new technology that has good and bad, right? Like any new technology. 

Rich Bennett 47:09
They say, remember when people were against computers when they first came out, right. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 47:13
Or against the Internet? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's going to be a porn hub, you know, And, you know, kind. 

Rich Bennett 47:17
Of is, I. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 47:18
Guess. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 47:21
Smartphones are now down here. The big beef is now they're trying to get it to where the kids can't take them to school again. Right. Which well, it's kind of hard when they don't have those things that you used to put a quarter in executive pay phones anymore. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 47:35
So there weren't pay phones and it's now so yeah. 

Rich Bennett 47:38
Oh yeah. So, Rob, before I get to my last question, is there anything you would like to add. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 47:47
I mean. 

Rich Bennett 47:48
Besides tell everybody to get your book? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 47:50
Well, that'd be great. Get my book. And also if I have also started up a new membership program for businesses and artists. 

Rich Bennett 47:57
So, oh. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 47:58
You pay a monthly fee and you can give access to me for questions, for contract reviews, for filing copyrights, Trademarks LLC, as it's called, 30 on demand at Y on demand dot com. So if any, there's any artists out there. 

Rich Bennett 48:14
Who. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 48:15
Are just businesses too, like, you know it's it's a little cheaper for a business that is an artist because an artist has more contract templates that they have access to. 

Rich Bennett 48:25
So if that it's not really it's not you're, you're not being a lawyer. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 48:29
I don't yeah, I'm their counsel, sure. 

Rich Bennett 48:33
But if they're in another state, they can still work. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 48:36
Yes. 

Rich Bennett 48:37
Oh, wow. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 48:37
I just there's certain things I can't practice in other states. Right. But if there's if like, say, let's say like, if they had a contract in the interview or they had a trademark they want to file, that's I could do that anywhere. 

Rich Bennett 48:48
Okay? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 48:49
If there is litigation, I would help them get an attorney in their state. So that's part of being in the program. 

Rich Bennett 48:54
So And what's the website again? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 48:56
Attorney on demand at high demand dotcom. 

Rich Bennett 49:01
I like that idea. I didn't realize you were doing that as well. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 49:05
Just started that up this year. Okay. Beginning of the year. So that's why I want to mention it. 

Rich Bennett 49:09
Any other surprises? Anything else you're doing that we don't know about? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 49:13
Sure. 

Rich Bennett 49:14
You're a chef, aren't you? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 49:16
I have a marketing company with my daughter. 

Rich Bennett 49:19
No way. Do you really? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 49:20
Yeah. My daughter is. She's a copywriter and does, you know, sales funnels and things like that. So her and I started up a little partnership because, you know, I have got the production side, my production company, Bel Air production. So, you know, she hires me to do the if someone wants a commercial, for instance, and then I use her to tell me, do the sales funnels and the social media ads and copywriting. So we have a little partnership. Well, hell yeah. Creative. 

Rich Bennett 49:49
Oh, okay. Yes. So you on your profile page? Yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 49:53
So Bel Air Productions is my production company, Bel Air Creative is the partnership with my daughter. 

Rich Bennett 49:57
Okay, Now do you guys have a website for that? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 50:00
It's Bel Air Creative dot com. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 50:02
Bel Air Creative dot com. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 50:05
Yep. 

Rich Bennett 50:05
And not down here in Bel Air, Harper County, Maryland. But where'd you come up? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 50:11
So Bel Air. You know, Bel Air, obviously is in Hollywood, right? Bel Air. But I live. 

Rich Bennett 50:16
Here in Maryland. Do we have a Bel Air? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 50:19
What's the famous The famous. Bel Air, You know. So, you know, that's why you, you know, the Hollywood related Bel Air. But I live on Bel Air Road in Norwalk. So that's where that's where the dame came from. 

Rich Bennett 50:32
Oh, come on. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 50:32
Seriously, I swear to God. Yeah. Bel Air Road is it's one word so that doesn't have to dash like Bel Air. It has the dash in the middle in Hollywood. But my. It's all one word, Bel. 

Rich Bennett 50:42
That's too funny because, yeah, we have a Bel Air down here too, which is. Yeah, it's pretty one common name. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 50:47
So. Yeah, yeah. 

Rich Bennett 50:48
More common now. 

So first before I get to the last question, those of you listening, make sure you get the book voice over legal, especially if you want to get into the voice. I would I would say more than just the voiceover world because you got a lot of great information about starting the business and everything in there as well. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 51:11
Yes, it would help any small business. It would help any artist. 

Rich Bennett 51:15
Yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 51:15
So it's it's cool. It's geared toward the voiceover business in particular. But you know, all those principles talk. This would. 

Rich Bennett 51:23
Be great. Starting about casters. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 51:26
Yeah, I represent podcasters as well, so. Yes. Oh absolutely. And podcasters can be part of There's I have a couple on my plan remember. Okay. So because they need, they need help starting up. Yeah. Trademarking and doing the LLC and all that, all that stuff. 

Rich Bennett 51:41
So I said, when you all get the book, make sure after you read it, leave a full review on Amazon are good reads. Actually. Have you thought about starting a podcast? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 51:50
I have, but. 

Rich Bennett 51:51
You just don't have the time for so. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 51:53
Much time. Exactly. So much time. So much time. So that's why I guess on podcasts. So. 

Rich Bennett 52:00
You like rich quick throw more shit at me man. I'm doing it off as well. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 52:04
I have thought about it. So it's. It's a lot. Of thought that goes in my mind. I don't have time for that. 

Rich Bennett 52:10
Definitely a lot of work. So you you've been a guest on several podcasts, you've been interviewed God everywhere. Is there anything thing a host has never asked you that you wish they would have asked you? And if so, what would be that question? What would be your answer? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 52:28
Well. Believe it or not, I've never had a host ask me what my favorite favorite thing to do was love acting or. Voiceovers or something else. 

Rich Bennett 52:38
I thought it would be deejaying. So what is your favorite? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 52:42
My favorite thing to do on camera acting as far as my professions. But my favorite thing to do is playing softball and golfing. Whatever. It's Oh. Like, what do I do when I'm not working? 

Rich Bennett 52:55
Right? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 52:56
So I play golf and I actually play on five softball teams and I want I run on the manager. The SAG after team in Central Park in New York. 

Rich Bennett 53:05
Five softball teams. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 53:07
Five softball teams. 

Rich Bennett 53:08
Yeah. Good lord. Man on. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 53:10
The pitcher. 

Rich Bennett 53:11
Holy cow. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 53:12
But softball's quick, like it's only an hour and early hour. Yeah, it's not like you know what I mean? It's. It's not. It's 5 hours a week. It's not. It's not. 

Rich Bennett 53:21
That many innings all play in. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 53:23
A slow pitch, so it's a11 car to play seven innings, but it goes by very. 

Rich Bennett 53:27
Fast. Oh, okay. So isn't that an oxymoron? Slow pitch goes by very, very fast. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 53:33
It is. It is. It is. They set up slow pitched so that the game goes quickly. 

Rich Bennett 53:39
And golf. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 53:40
And golf. 

Rich Bennett 53:41
Gods love golf. And I have a big golf. And in years, I definitely need to get back out there. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 53:46
It's just been it's been such a mild winter that I pretty much golfed every single week. You're get. Like so. 

Rich Bennett 53:53
It's funny because a lot of people would say either it's too stressful. I think it's a stress reliever playing golf. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 54:00
I mean, it depends on your level of competition. Like if you really if you're really competitive, then it could be you're, you know, it gets frustrating, hit the ball and it can be stressful. I could see that. But most of the time it's not stressful. Most of the time it is a stress reliever. 

Rich Bennett 54:15
Yeah, Yeah. Oh, I can name it now. See, it's good exercise. I definitely have. Yes, it really is. You mean if you don't use the cart? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 54:26
Even if you use the cart still. Good exercise. Is still swinging. You're still you're still going to have at least 10,000 steps with the cart. 

Rich Bennett 54:33
Well, Rob, I want to thank you so much. And Guy, it's been a true pleasure and an honor talking to you. If you ever make it down this way, you'll lock me up and I'll introduce you To what? Steamed crabs. If you have never had Maryland Steamed crabs, what steamed crabs should taste like? 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 54:54
Well, I want to. I've had them, but I have not had the ones that you have, so I'll definitely take you up on it. 

Rich Bennett 55:00
Oh, yeah. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 55:00
I got good ones. 

Rich Bennett 55:02
Yeah. You haven't had Maryland steamed crabs or crab cake until you've had them from here. Rob, thanks a lot. 

Robert Sciglimpaglia 55:08
Thank you.